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The Official Clean House Thread.
They can screw themselves then if that's what they really wanted. But hey, if I heard that Brian Sabean was offering Tim Alderson for Freddy Freakin Sanchez, I'd ask for Maddison Bumgarner too. If they really want to get rid of him (they may not want to) they will get less than Bumgarner.
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9/23/2009, 1:36 pm
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As for players, I'd love to see Rentarrhea and his grand slam waived.
Here is a roster made up of guys that are under team control for 2010. This would exclude Uribe and Molina among others that will become FA after the season.
CF Teh Gamer 13.6 (Whisky. Tango. Foxtrot.)
SS Rentarrhea 10 (Whisky. Tango. Foxtrot.)
LF Fred .4
3B Pablo .4
RF Nate .4
2B Eugene Velez .4
1B Garko .4
C Posey .4
Zito 18.5
Timmy 9 (arb)
Cain 4.5
Sanchez 1.75 (arb)
Bumgarner .4
Frandsen .4
Ishikawa .4
Affeldt 4.5
Wilson 2.5 (arb)
Medders .5
Runzler .4
Merkin .4
Hinshaw .4
Romo .4
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9/23/2009, 2:18 pm
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1B Garko .4
Sanchez 1.75 (arb)
Wilson 2.5 (arb)
Garko is arbitration eligible, which is part of why the Indians dumped him.
Sanchez and Wilson will likely make double those figures in arbitration. Wilson, especially.
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9/23/2009, 2:52 pm
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POSTGAME NOTES: Molina’s season not ending well, adventurous inning for Posey, replay justice is served, Big Unit adds to strikeout total, looking bleak for G’s
Posted by Andrew Baggarly on September 22nd, 2009 at 11:39 pm | Categorized as Uncategorized
The guess here is that Bengie Molina’s tenure with the Giants is ending – and not particularly well, either.
Molina looked dead tired last Sunday at Dodger Stadium, even though he had a day off the previous afternoon. He barely seemed involved as Tim Lincecum struggled to locate pitches in the heat.
He perked up a little on Monday, but seemed to slip back into the same lethargy Tuesday night at Chase Field. Matt Cain gave up eight hits in a span of 12 batters and Molina didn’t seem to take charge of the situation. He allowed a wild pitch, too.
When Bruce Bochy pulled Cain in the third inning, he took occasion to remove Molina as part of a double-switch. Molina had made the second-to-last out in the top of the inning, but the move sure seemed to have more behind it than that.
Bochy said Molina was OK and “I just felt that was the move to make.”
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I wouldn’t be shocked to see Buster Posey in the lineup when the Giants start their homestand Thursday. I’m not predicting it, but heck, he might even be in there Wednesday night.
Posey got a scoreless inning out of Merkin Valdez in the ninth. If that doesn’t tell you he’s ready to be a major league catcher …
Posey became Buster Hosey, throwing out Chris Young trying to steal third base. He’s officially 1-for-1. Why Young was running in a 10-5 game, I’m not sure. But since the Giants scored three in the bottom of the ninth, I guess you can’t find fault with it.
It wasn’t all roses for Posey, though. He either got crossed up or completely whiffed on a high but not wild fastball, and Posey kind of cringed as it sailed over his glove. It struck plate umpire Wally Bell flush on the mask, and Bell needed several minutes to shake it off.
“It looked like Posey was looking for a slider or changeup,” Bochy said. “You’ve got no time to react there.”
I asked Valdez if he crossed Posey up and he just shrugged. “Fastball,” he said.
Posey had trouble with passed balls when he was sent back from the Hawaiian League, but everything I hear from Giants officials, both on and off the record, is that his catching skills are up to major league snuff.
Here’s guessing we’ll have plenty of innings in the next two weeks to judge for ourselves.
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The Giants were 22-0 when scoring at least eight runs. Until Tuesday night, that is.
That’s an amazing statistic. I had no idea the Giants scored eight runs 22 times.
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I’m a believer now. Instant replay works on home run calls.
The umps would’ve gotten it wrong when they allowed Manny Parra to circle the bases in the third inning. The ball hit the pad below the yellow line and kicked high in the air. It was a double, and after a very quick review, the umpires reversed their call and ordered Parra back to third base.
Interestingly, it wasn’t treated like a ground-rule double. Miguel Montero was on first base, yet umpires allowed him to score instead of sending him back to third.
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Every time I watch Randy Johnson pitch, I wonder whether it’ll be his last major league appearance. You’d have to believe the odds are stacked against him returning next season with a torn rotator cuff.
If Tuesday night was the finale, it was a good way to go out. The homer to Rusty Ryal notwithstanding, the Big Unit struck out the side. That makes 4,872 strikeouts in his 21-year career, good for second all-time — but no threat to Nolan Ryan’s major league record of 5,714.
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Matt Cain struck out Mark Reynolds in the third inning to tie the single-season major league record, and Reynolds just kept right on going. Madison Bumgarner fanned him in the fourth to break Reynolds’ own year-old record. Then Brandon Medders got him, too.
Valdez had a shot to become the fourth Giants pitcher to strike out Reynolds, but contact was made. Reynolds grounded weakly to third base. Pablo Sandoval threw to second base way too late, but umpire Angel Campos must’ve been taking pity on everyone in the ballpark when he called the runner out. That’s my Angel.
We wondered aloud in the press box whether Reynolds had ever struck out against four different pitchers in the same game. Then we noticed all the Arizona writers were looking at us like we were crazy and nodding their heads.
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Well, this one pretty much cinches it. The Rockies nearly lost, the Giants nearly rallied to win, but in the end it’s another one-game swing in the Rockies’ favor. It doesn’t even matter that the Giants are tied with the Braves now, too.
It’s been a great season, a surprising season, but it was hard to envision this team making the playoffs with the lowest on-base percentage and the fewest walks in the major leagues.
**So … Cain for Fielder?
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9/23/2009, 2:55 pm
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1B Garko .4
Sanchez 1.75 (arb)
Wilson 2.5 (arb)
Garko is arbitration eligible, which is part of why the Indians dumped him.
Sanchez and Wilson will likely make double those figures in arbitration. Wilson, especially.
I'm not good at predicting these things. 5 seems like a lot for a first year arb closer. But you probably know more about it than I do. We've never really had good arbitration eligible players. It's always been long relievers and bench guys for the most part.
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9/23/2009, 3:00 pm
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The Giants were 22-0 when scoring at least eight runs. Until Tuesday night, that is.
That’s an amazing statistic. I had no idea the Giants scored eight runs 22 times.
Buh dump bump. Thank you, thank you, you're too kind. Try the veal. I'll be here all week.
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9/23/2009, 3:06 pm
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1B Garko .4
Sanchez 1.75 (arb)
Wilson 2.5 (arb)
Garko is arbitration eligible, which is part of why the Indians dumped him.
Sanchez and Wilson will likely make double those figures in arbitration. Wilson, especially.
I'm not good at predicting these things. 5 seems like a lot for a first year arb closer. But you probably know more about it than I do. We've never really had good arbitration eligible players. It's always been long relievers and bench guys for the most part.
Looks like Rivera got 4.75 his first year, I know that was 10 years ago but salaries are tighter than they have been in previous years.
KRod signed for 3.75 in 2006 his first arb year. I would be shocked if Wilson got 5. 4 maybe. 3.5-3.75 seems about right.
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Actually KRod put up two seasons better than the one Wilson just did before he signed that 3.75 mil deal to avoid arb.
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9/23/2009, 3:32 pm
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Market-wise, Metro is worth the 4-5 in arb. no doubt.
His slider is much improved, he's not a one-trick-pony as he was for much of 08, and his command is sharper. You gotta like his huge dip in ERA from last year as well.
Get it done, FO.
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9/23/2009, 5:19 pm
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The Official Clean House Thread.
I love how this is called "The Official Clean House Thread" following a season in which the team wildly exceeded all reasonable expectations. Some of you are nuttier than those idiots who think Obama was born in Kenya! What's next? You want to change the team colors too?
Those of you expecting a management shakeup are out of your mind. Whether you're right or wrong, managers don't get fired for improving their team's record three every year at the helm. Never going to happen. Quit complaining about it. Move on.
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9/23/2009, 7:22 pm
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