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Re: Has the Mets collapse begun again?
-- Mets are 1-4 since this thread was started.
-- Phillies are now in first place by half a game with 12 games left to play for the Mets
(one up in the win column)
-- Mets have a 32.96 year old rook with a 6.43 era starting on the mound today vs the Nats.
Remaining schedules:
Mets- 2 at Nats, 3 at Braves, 4 vs Cubs, 3 vs Marlins
Phillies- 2 at Braves, 3 vs Marlins, 3 vs Braves, 3 vs Nats
Note: Mets have backed into the WC lead due to the Brewers collapse.
(.5 game lead-- one less loss than the Brewers)
-- Houston also still has a chance for a WC spot, 3 games back with 12 to play
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WASHINGTON -- The long list of disabled Mets became one name longer Tuesday night. Fernando Tatis was removed from the Mets' game against the Nationals and whatever other games the Mets may play this season. Beginning in the fifth inning, Tatis moved to the infirmary dugout alongside Moises Alou, Billy Wagner, John Maine, Orlando Hernandez, et al, his right shoulder separated, his season complete.
Tatis landed on the shoulder after he made an unsuccessful attempt to catch a sinking line drive that became the pivotal play in the Mets' 1-0 loss to the Nationals. He was escorted off the field by trainer Ray Ramirez and was to travel by train to New York on Wednesday morning, so the full extent of the injury could be determined.
Nick Evans and later Endy Chavez replaced Tatis in left field. The two of them and Daniel Murphy now will share the position with the two rookies, Evans and Murphy, starting most of the games.
"It's very discouraging," manager Jerry Manuel said. "He's been a big and solid piece of what we are and what we've accomplished."
Soon after he join the Mets in mid-May, Tatis, 33, became an important contributor. A third baseman by trade, he moved to the outfield -- he had started 28 games in left and 35 in right -- and provided some of the right-handed run production the Mets had hoped to get from Alou. He finished his first big league season since 2006 with a .297 average, a .484 slugging percentage, 11 home runs and 47 RBIs in 92 games (273 at-bats).
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Re: Has the Mets collapse begun again?
perhaps I should have titled this thread "will the Brewers collapse continue?"
(they are 2-8 in the last ten games)
But anyway-
Mets and Phillies hold serve yesterday
-- Mets are now 3-4 since this thread was started.
-- Phillies are still in first place by half a game with 10 games left to play for the Mets, and 9 for the Phillies.
(Phillies are one up in the win column)
-- Mets have lefty Oliver Perez (10-7) on the mound vs lefty Jo-Jo Reyes (3-11) for the Braves tonight.
(who names their kid Jo-Jo?)
Remaining schedules:
Mets- 3 at Braves, 4 vs Cubs, 3 vs Marlins
Phillies- 3 vs Marlins, 3 vs Braves, 3 vs Nats
Note: Mets now have a 1.5 game lead over the Brewers in the WC standings- two less losses than the Brewers)
-- Houston now has almost no chance for a WC spot-- they are 5 games back with 10 to play
(tied with Florida)
It appears that both WC teams will come from the Eastern divisions.
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9/19/2008, 9:33 am
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Re: Has the Mets collapse begun again?
Mets lose-Phillies win
-- Mets are now 4-6 since this thread was started.
(and had a three game lead over Philly at the time --with 17 games left to play
--Phillies now have a 1.5 game lead over the Mets,
--Brewers are 1.5 games back of the Mets in the WC race and will be at home for 3 against the Pirates
Remaining schedules:
Mets- 4 games vs Cubs, 3 vs Marlins
Phillies- 3 games vs Braves, 3 vs Nats
And in regards to the "thirst for worst" aka the draft pick race, see below:
(one week left to go in the regular season)
Thirst for Worst-- Top 15 Standings as of end of day, Sunday, September 21st:
(also included at the bottom are the next 5 worst teams in baseball)
***Note Baltimore is currently playing but a win or a loss won't affect their TFW standings ***
--Seattle still holding the top spot, after they and the Nats lose two more in a row.
Seattle has lost 11 in a row now-- and one could argue that they are intentionally trying for the number one pick. ....Or just that they sukkk.
--Washington has lost 5 in a row, and are 2-8 in the last ten games.
--Baltimore moves up into the top 5 spot. ***
--Detroit moves into the top ten.
--DOYERS move down a spot and are now the 17th worst team in baseball.
(or 14th "best". Either way you look at it, they are average at best- and don't belong anywhere near the playoffs.)
1. Seattle 57-98 .368 -- E
2. Washington 58-98 .372 -- E
3. San Diego 61-95 .391 -- E
4. Pittsburgh 65-91 .417 -- E
5. Baltimore 67-86 .438 -- E
6. Atlanta 69-87 .442 -- E
T-7. Kansas City 70-86 .449 -- E
T-7. San Francisco 70-86 .449 -- E
9. Colorado 71-85 .455 -- E
10. Detroit 71-83 .461 -- E
11. Cincinnati 72-83 .465 -- E
12. Oakland 74-81 .477 -- E
13. Texas 75-81 .481 -- E
T-14. Cleveland 78-77 .503 -- E
T-14. Arizona 78-77 .503 -- E number =5
16. St Louis 80-75 .516 -- E
17. DOYERS 81-75 .519 -- E number = first divisional series, if reached
T-18. Florida 81-74 .523 -- E number = 1
T-18. Houston 82-73 .529 -- E
20. Toronto 83-73 .532 -- E
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Re: Has the Mets collapse begun again?
quote:
Nine Buck wrote:
Mets lose-Phillies win
-- Mets are now 4-6 since this thread was started.
(and had a three game lead over Philly at the time --with 17 games left to play
--Phillies now have a 1.5 game lead over the Mets,
--Brewers are 1.5 games back of the Mets in the WC race and will be at home for 3 against the Pirates
Remaining schedules:
Mets- 4 games vs Cubs, 3 vs Marlins
Phillies- 3 games vs Braves, 3 vs Nats
And in regards to the "thirst for worst" aka the draft pick race, see below:
(one week left to go in the regular season)
Thirst for Worst-- Top 15 Standings as of end of day, Sunday, September 21st:
(also included at the bottom are the next 5 worst teams in baseball)
***Note Baltimore is currently playing but a win or a loss won't affect their TFW standings ***
--Seattle still holding the top spot, after they and the Nats lose two more in a row.
Seattle has lost 11 in a row now-- and one could argue that they are intentionally trying for the number one pick. ....Or just that they sukkk.
--Washington has lost 5 in a row, and are 2-8 in the last ten games.
--Baltimore moves up into the top 5 spot. ***
--Detroit moves into the top ten.
--DOYERS move down a spot and are now the 17th worst team in baseball.
(or 14th "best". Either way you look at it, they are average at best- and don't belong anywhere near the playoffs.)
1. Seattle 57-98 .368 -- E
2. Washington 58-98 .372 -- E
3. San Diego 61-95 .391 -- E
4. Pittsburgh 65-91 .417 -- E
5. Baltimore 67-86 .438 -- E
6. Atlanta 69-87 .442 -- E
T-7. Kansas City 70-86 .449 -- E
T-7. San Francisco 70-86 .449 -- E
9. Colorado 71-85 .455 -- E
10. Detroit 71-83 .461 -- E
11. Cincinnati 72-83 .465 -- E
12. Oakland 74-81 .477 -- E
13. Texas 75-81 .481 -- E
T-14. Cleveland 78-77 .503 -- E
T-14. Arizona 78-77 .503 -- E number =5
16. St Louis 80-75 .516 -- E
17. DOYERS 81-75 .519 -- E number = first divisional series, if reached
T-18. Florida 81-74 .523 -- E number = 1
T-18. Houston 82-73 .529 -- E
20. Toronto 83-73 .532 -- E
Hopefully the Mets lose the Wild Card in Epic fashion to the Brewers
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Re: Has the Mets collapse begun again?
Mets lose again.
Phillies win again (9-1 in the last ten games)
-- Mets are now 4-7 since this thread was started.
(and had a three game lead over Philly at the time --with 17 games left to play)
-- Phillies now in first place by 2.5 games-- with 6 games left to play for the Mets, and 5 for the Phillies.
Note: Mets WC lead over the 85-71 Brewers - is now down to 1 game.
The Brewers aren't out of it yet.
Remaining schedules:
89-68 Phillies--- 2 games vs Braves, 3 vs Nats
86-70 Mets----- 3 games vs Cubs, 3 vs Marlins
85-71 Brewers--- 3 games vs Pirates, 3 games vs Cubs
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Has the Mets collapse begun again?
The Brew Crew are now only 1 game behind!!
Mets Rookie Niesen allows a Grand slam to Jason Marquis, YES THE CUBS PITCHER(not to be confused with Zambrano) HITS A GRAND SLAM AND AT HE END OF THE DAY JASON HAD 5 RBIs
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Re: Has the Mets collapse begun again?
Thirst for Worst-- Top 15 Standings as of start of day, Wednesday, September 24th:
(also included at the bottom are the next 5 worst teams in baseball)
--Seattle still holding the top spot, and they are now just one loss away from a 100 loss season
--Washington hanging in there and still very much alive for the number one pick
--SD has pretty much locked up having no worse than the number 3 pick. They would have to win out, while the Pirates lost their remaining 5 games for anything to change.
--SF takes over the 7th spot, and is still mathematically "alive" for a top 5 pick (as well as still being mathematically alive for taking 3rd place away from Colorado in the West)
--DOYERS move down a spot and are now the 18th worst team in baseball.
(Or 13th "best"--- Either way you look at it, they still sukkk- and don't belong anywhere near the playoffs.)
1. Seattle 58-99 .369 -- E
2. Washington 59-98 .376 -- E
3. San Diego 61-96 .389 -- E
4. Pittsburgh 65-92 .414 -- E
5. Baltimore 67-90 .427 -- E
6. Atlanta 70-88 .443 -- E
7. San Francisco 70-87 .446 -- E
8. Kansas City 72-86 .456 -- E
9. Detroit 71-85 .455 -- E
10. Colorado 72-85 .459 -- E
11. Cincinnati 74-83 .471 -- E
12. Oakland 75-82 .478 -- E
13. Texas 76-82 .481 -- E
T-14. Cleveland 79-78 .503 -- E
T-14. Arizona 79-78 .503 -- E number = 3
T-16. St Louis 81-76 .516 -- E
T-16. Florida 81-76 .516 -- E
18. DOYERS 82-75 .522 -- E number = first divisional series, if reached
19. Houston 82-74 .526 -- E
20. Toronto 83-74 .529 -- E
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*Notes-
---AL East pennant race:
Boston clinches a playoff spot and eliminates the Yankees from the playoffs altogether by doing so.
Rays lead is 3 games over Boston with 5 to play
(Rays Magic number for the AL East pennant= 2)
-- AL Central winner is still undecided.
White Sox have a 1.5 game lead over Minnesota, with their next two games being played in Minnesota. That race may come down to a makeup game for the White Sox next Monday, possibly followed by a one game playoff after that game, on Tuesday
-- NL East and NL Wild card are still undecided.
Phllies lead is now 1.5 games over the Mets
Remaining schedules:
89-69 Phillies--- 1 games vs Braves, 3 vs Nats
87-70 Mets----- 2 games vs Cubs, 3 vs Marlins
NL WC race-
87-70 Mets----- 2 games vs Cubs, 3 vs Marlins
86-71 Brewers--- 3 games vs Pirates, 3 games vs Cubs.
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Re: Has the Mets collapse begun again?
here is how the standings list looked after April ended:
Who fell the hardest since then?
Answer: Dbacks.
after a 20-8 start, they went 59-70
(with 5 games left to play)
and THAT is how the 14-13 Bums in April, could win the West after only going 6 games over .500 after April (68-62)
That's just pathetic.
Of the teams with losing records in April-
Who climbed the highest?
Answer: Toronto.
after an 11-17 start, they went 72-57
(with 5 games left to play)
Of the teams with winning records in April-
Who climbed the highest?
Answer: Rays
after a 15-12 start, they went 80-50
Note:
Giants more or less maintained their April pace all season long (averaged out on the overall)
An average of around 3 games under .500 for each month.
13-16 after April ended
57-71 since then.
(6 months at 3 games under .500 for each month = 18 games under .500 for the season.
The Giants are currently 17 games under .500 with 5 games left to play--- (70-87)
1 Texas Rangers 10-18 W1
2 Toronto Blue Jays 11-17 L2
3 Colorado Rockies 11-17 L1
4 San Diego Padres 11-17 W1
5 Washington Nationals 11-17 W3
6 Cincinnati Reds 12-17 L2
7 Pittsburgh Pirates 11-16 W1
8 Atlanta Braves 12-15 L4
9 Kansas City Royals 12-15 L1
10 Houston Astros 13-16 L1
*11 San Francisco Giants 13-16 W1*
12 Seattle Mariners 13-15 L1
13 Cleveland Indians 13-15 W1
14 Detroit Tigers 13-15 W2
15 New York Yankees 14-15 L2
16 Minnesota Twins 13-14 W2
17 Los Angeles Dodgers 14-13 W5
18 New York Mets 14-12 L1
19 Chicago White Sox 14-12 L2
20 Philadelphia Phillies 15-13 L1
21 Florida Marlins 15-12 L2
22 Milwaukee Brewers 15-12 L1
23 Baltimore Orioles 15-12 L1
24 Tampa Bay Rays 15-12 W1
25 Oakland Athletics 17-12 L2
26 Boston Red Sox 17-12 W2
27 Chicago Cubs 17-10 W1
28 St. Louis Cardinals 18-11 W2
29 Los Angeles Angels 18-11 W2
30 Arizona Diamondbacks 20-8 W1
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Re: Has the Mets collapse begun again?
Also of note, the Giants are 2 Games back for 3rd place with 5 to play.
Rox finish with three at Arizona, so the chance are high 3rd could happen. I mean, it's Livan Hernandez against Jon Sanchez tonight...
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Re: Has the Mets collapse begun again?
Wed. 9/24--
Mets 5-8 since this thread was started
(They had a 3 game lead in the NL East at the time.)
Tonight:
-- Phillies lose
-- Mets lose in extras at home after stranding ten men on base in the last 5 innings, including stranding a runner on 3B in every inning from the 5th on out (except for the tenth, where they went down quietly)
In the bottom of the ninth, tied 5-5, the Mets had a leadoff triple, then loaded the bases and failed to scored.
(Wright K'd on ball 4 for the first out, then a FC at the plate for out number 2, then a final K on a ball out of the zone to end their chances.)
D Lee and Aramis Ramirez buried the Mets in the tenth with an RBi double, followed by a two run jack.
Phllies lead is still 1.5 games over the Mets
--Brewers win behind CC Sabathia who pitched on 3 days rest and tossed a gem
Remaining schedules:
89-70 Phillies (at home)--- 3 vs Nats
87-71 Mets (at home)----- 1 game vs Cubs, 3 vs Marlins
WC race-
87-71 (Mets at home)----- 1 game vs Cubs, 3 vs Marlins
87-71 Brewers (at home)--- 1 game vs Pirates, 3 games vs Cubs.
Note: Substantial Nor'Easter moving in on the East Coast.
Phillies have an off day tomorrow, but the Mets/ Cubs game may not be played.
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