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Alderson will be up for good when he gets called up in 2009.
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12/14/2007, 11:48 pm
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I don't disagree (with Malcontent). I did say that I didn't believe in the "next year" hype. I just hope he makes it up at some point and fulfills the overall hype. He looked pretty good in the scouting vids that were floating around during draft time.
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BTW, I want to say it was Hiatt who hinted at next year, but I could be mistaken.
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12/14/2007, 11:52 pm
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quote: kaliber77 wrote:
BTW, I want to say it was Hiatt who hinted at next year, but I could be mistaken.
I think that was said by one of them prospect gurus. I can't recall who it was, by they said Alderson was one of their favorite picks and they expected him be closing games by next sept.
I don't know if I buy it either. It sounded more like a guy just over-emphasizing his position.
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12/15/2007, 12:09 am
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quote: chefjuan wrote:
quote: kaliber77 wrote:
BTW, I want to say it was Hiatt who hinted at next year, but I could be mistaken.
I think that was said by one of them prospect gurus. I can't recall who it was, by they said Alderson was one of their favorite picks and they expected him be closing games by next sept.
I don't know if I buy it either. It sounded more like a guy just over-emphasizing his position.
Well first the Giants have to decide if he's Starter material or a better fit as reliever, the last time these guru's made a statement like that about a Giants pitching prospect it was Tim Lincecum as being a closer.
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When they drafted Alderson, I wondered if there were any thoughts on switching him to a closer at some point. The early scouting report was that he was a fastball/curveball guy with a change that he didn't throw much in high school, but he's got outstanding control. I'd love to have a guy come in in the 9th and not worry about him walking the first guy.
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A dominating closer fast tracked out of the minors certainly would be nice. But cuddled out of the minors would be more to my liking as I think Wilson has got the stuff, he just needs the chance, and the opportunity to get banged around without feeling like he's looking over his shoulder. If he has rough spots in a losing season, but continues to show development, and mostly success, then he should be staying put in that role. <edit> I mean in the sense that they don't need to be fast tracking anyone to close as long as Wilson is exhibiting the mentality and talent to do it, just needing the experience at the shows level to take his lumps and learn lessons.
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quote: Tranq wrote:
A dominating closer fast tracked out of the minors certainly would be nice. But cuddled out of the minors would be more to my liking as I think Wilson has got the stuff, he just needs the chance, and the opportunity to get banged around without feeling like he's looking over his shoulder. If he has rough spots in a losing season, but continues to show development, and mostly success, then he should be staying put in that role. <edit> I mean in the sense that they don't need to be fast tracking anyone to close as long as Wilson is exhibiting the mentality and talent to do it, just needing the experience at the shows level to take his lumps and learn lessons.
I'd rather see Alderson develop as a starter for now.
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I've seen Alderson pitch in high school and with the AZL club. In high school he was still dealing in the low 90's with solid control in the 5th inning. That said, why bother grooming him as a closer when he's doing that. But if the Giants need a closer in a couple of years and he's blowing through the minors as a starter I don't mind them making the switch. Whatever's best for the club...
Baseball America said a few interesting things about Alderson. They said the Giants believe Alderson is more advandce than Cain was and has more projection at this point in his career. They also mentioned in the chat that a lot of scouts did see Alderson as a closer because he pitched exclusively out of the stretch in high school and has a herky-jerky delivery but the Giants love his stuff and command and believe he'll make a bigger impact as a starter. They also mentioned again that a Giants top official said Alderson does everthing better than Matt Cain at the same age.
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quote: philramirez wrote:
I've seen Alderson pitch in high school and with the AZL club. In high school he was still dealing in the low 90's with solid control in the 5th inning. That said, why bother grooming him as a closer when he's doing that. But if the Giants need a closer in a couple of years and he's blowing through the minors as a starter I don't mind them making the switch. Whatever's best for the club...
Check out this from BA...
quote: 2. Tim Alderson, rhp
Born: Nov. 3, 1988 • B-T: R-R • Ht: 6-7 • Wt: 217
Drafted: HS—Scottsdale, Ariz., 2007 (1st round) • Signed by: Lee Carballo
The Future: San Francisco believes Alderson is more advanced and has more projection than Matt Cain did when he went 25th overall in the 2002 draft. As with Cain, the Giants won't be afraid to push Alderson and his uncanny command suggests he'll move extremely fast. Low Class A Augusta is the logical next step, but don't be surprised if Alderson opens 2008 at high Class A San Jose.
quote: Q: JAYPERS from IL asks:It's my understanding that Alderson was being considered as a potential closer, yet you have him as a 4 on your 2011 Lineup card. Could he fit into either role, if need be?
A: Andy Baggarly: Ah, JAYPERS, can't have a chat without you. A lot of scouts felt Alderson was better suited to relief because he threw exclusively from the stretch in high school and he's got a herky-jerky delivery. The Giants believe he'll make a bigger impact as a starter and they just love his command and stuff. One top official said Alderson does everything better than Matt Cain did at the same age. That is truly something to get excited about. Giants coaches had Alderson throw out of a windup in instructional league and he repeated it well. There's no concerns he will have any problems adjusting to it. Bumgarner still has a bit more projectable velocity and he's left-handed, so a lot of folks grade him higher, but Alderson's command and his pro debut earn him the higher rank on our list.
Wow, that sure does sounds promising.
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12/15/2007, 11:47 am
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