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^^^^^^ Sorry to hear that you are siding with the manager under any circumstances, especially in the light that its a youth-game (USSSA is high-caliber ball) and that you don't know whether or not the call was correct.

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Phil Skuzzy and Mark Wegner will get it eventually because its only a matter of time until managers and players have had enough of them and their blown calls.

btw, I think she is siding with the manager only because he actually emoticon an ump

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^^^^^^ Sorry to hear that you are siding with the manager under any circumstances, especially in the light that its a youth-game (USSSA is high-caliber ball) and that you don't know whether or not the call was correct.



i'm not siding with the [sign in to see URL] living through him as to how it must have felt to punch an umpire.

it's something i want to do, but don't think i can make a dent.

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Hamels started toward the dugout after what he thought was a strike. Lincecum didn't get the call & buzzed ump Dana DeMuth w. a fastball that slammed off the backstop & then froze Hamels w. another 3rd strike. 4/28/10 Timmy the ump killer.
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Phil Cuzzi Was Once Fired As Minor League Ump!


Ed Price at AOL Fanhouse reports this weekend that Phil Cuzzi, the umpire who botched the Joe Mauer fly ball call that may have cost the Twins a win in Game 2 of the ALDS, was previously fired from professional umpiring after he failed to impress supervisors during call-ups from the minor leagues.
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Cuzzi was “released” from his umpiring duties as a AAA umpire in ‘93, but while working as a bartender in a hotel in ‘96, he prevailed up former National League President Len Coleman to give him another chance at the job.

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(If only he’d botched fateful martini at the Hackensack Hilton that badly)

Cuzzi was then assigned to the low minors that year, eventually working his way back to a permanent major league job in ‘99.

Since he locked down that gig, Cuzzi has emphatically proven why he should’ve never been given a second chance. Per Price:

    In October 1999, the Mets protested to Major League Baseball that Cuzzi, working home plate for a Mets-Braves game, refused to ask for help from the first- and third-base umpires. A New York Post story suggested it was because the corner umpires were union veterans and he was one of the hired replacements.

Add in several more documented, on-field controversies and it appears we might just be seeing a pattern developing here.

I worked as a baseball announcer for a decade in the minor and major leagues, and I got to know many umpires during that time. A lot of fine gentlemen, but understand there’s no industry where a stronger old boy network exists. It’s like the mafia or a union with a vice-grip over a company: no one can touch you - no matter how incompetent you are.

Now Twins fans can only lament that Cuzzi didn’t botch Coleman’s martini at the Hacksensack Airport Ramada in ‘96 as badly as he did Friday’s call.

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Hamels started toward the dugout after what he thought was a strike. Lincecum didn't get the call & buzzed ump Dana DeMuth w. a fastball that slammed off the backstop & then froze Hamels w. another 3rd strike. 4/28/10 Timmy the ump killer.
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MINNEAPOLIS -- Phil Cuzzi, the umpire who missed a call down the left-field line that helped cost the Twins their game Friday night at Yankee Stadium, was fired as a minor league umpire in 1993.

According to a June 1999 story by The Associated Press, Cuzzi was working at a hotel bar in July 1996 when he approached National League president Len Coleman and asked for a chance to get back into umpiring.

Coleman allowed Cuzzi to work his way back from the low minors, and Cuzzi was one of 25 new umpires hired in 1999 as a response to mass resignations that were part of a failed labor ploy.
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Cuzzi, working the left-field line in Game 2 of the American League Division Series, ruled Joe Mauer's 11th-inning drive foul from about 15 feet away. But the ball clearly hit in fair territory, and it would have been a double for Mauer. He later singled, but the Twins failed to score and went on to lose in the bottom of the inning.

As Twins closer Joe Nathan told the Minneapolis Star-Tribune: "I had a tough night the inning before, and [Cuzzi] made a bad call there. So we both blew one tonight."

And Cuzzi, 44, had yet to speak about the call until a Saturday night interview with the Newark Star-Ledger. After the game, crew chief Tim Tschida addressed the missed call in lieu of Cuzzi, which is standard practice.

"Some things are correctable," Tschida said. "Some things can be overturned. Some things are just -- you have to go with what the guy closest to the play had and you live and die with the decision.

"We just feel horribly when that happens to us, you know? There's a guy sitting over in the umpire's dressing room right now that feels horrible. I've been there. ... Nobody feels it worse than the umpire."

Cuzzi told the Star-Ledger he felt horribly about missing the call.

    "Unless you umpire, you can't possibly understand," Cuzzi told the Star-Ledger in a phone interview Saturday night. "It happens. It happens at the worst possible time. And it happened to me." ...

    "We're not used to playing that far down the line," Cuzzi said. "The instant the ball is hit, we usually start running. I think I may have been looking too closely at it. I never had a feel for where the left fielder was on the play."

    But this much he knows: "There is no excuse. I missed the play. It's a terrible feeling. As badly as many people on that field may have felt (Friday), I don't think any of them had a worse night's sleep than I did."

In October 1999, the Mets protested to Major League Baseball that Cuzzi, working home plate for a Mets-Braves game, refused to ask for help from the first- and third-base umpires. A New York Post story suggested it was because the corner umpires were union veterans and he was one of the hired replacements.

This is not Cuzzi's first assignment for a big event; he worked the 2003-04 Division Series, the 2005 NLCS and the 2008 All-Star Game.

The 1999 AP story on Cuzzi read:

    Cuzzi began umpiring in 1985 in the New York-Penn League. By 1991, he was a fill-in for the NL, and he worked a total of 95 games in the majors in a three-year span -- ejecting the likes of Bobby Bonilla, Dallas Green and Jim Lefebvre along the way.

    Then on the day before Thanksgiving in 1993 came the dreaded call. He had done well, but there were no foreseeable spots for him in the majors, and he was being released -- forever.

    Though about a dozen pro umps get dropped each year, "I couldn't believe it," he said.

Twins manager Ron Gardenhire said Saturday instant replay probably isn't a solution.

"Give me a headset and give me a red flag and we can fix this stuff," he said, "but I would have to have somebody calling me up saying 'throw your flag, let's question this call.'

"The great thing about baseball is the human elements involved, and we always want to keep it that way; (it's) not easy when you are in New York. The lines are short and it's not easy, so there you have it. You are going to have a few. We made enough mistakes ourselves and we missed opportunities to win the game ourselves, too. It just goes that way sometimes."

Said Yankees manager Joe Girardi: "I like the way they are doing it, just home run calls. Those are important plays, and there are other important plays, and you could look at the play the other night and say that was an important play, but I think there would be too many things that people would want instant replay, and where would you stop?"
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Forget that the Giants didn't hit for 8 innings. Forget that Freddy Sanchez really should have been able to hit something better than that weak grounder. Forget that they had a chance to tie the game in the 10th inning. This game today was won, and then taken away, by umpire Phil Cuzzi. But it wasn't just Cuzzi's blown call at home that put him in the spotlight today. Throughout the game, both benches were not happy with the strike zone. After a couple close pitches were not called the Mets' way in the bottom of the 9th, Cuzzi suddenly, and bizzarely, took off his mask and started screaming at God-knows-who. After the Ishikawa debacle, Aubrey Huff hit a fair ball that was called foul by the third base ump, and Cuzzi saw no need to overturn it. His awful strike zone continued into the 10th inning, against both Brian Wilson and K-Rod. Clearly this is a man who does not like his judgment to be questioned. Yet throughout Cuzzi's umpiring career, his ability and judgment has been questioned often. Phil was a minor league umpire from '91 to '93, until he was fired. Yes, you heard right: Cuzzi was fired as a minor league ump.

How did he make it to The Show? In 1996, Phil the ump was Phil the bartender, working at the Short Hills Hilton near Philadelphia. It was there that he came across Leonard Coleman, then supervisor of the National League. Somehow, Phil was able to get the supervisor to let him back into minor league umpiring. Why did Coleman do this? Had he gone crazy? Perhaps he was wearing a burgundy coat, and would eventually attempt to murder his wife and child with an axe (Coleman was quoted as saying to Cuzzi: "Phil, you're the best !@#$ umpire from here to Portland, Maine, or Portland, Oregon for that matter").

When Phil finally made it to the Bigs in 1999, what began was a long stretch of confrontations with managers and controversial calls. Here are some notables:

June 25, 2010: Phil rings up James Loney of the Dodgers, ending the game, the culmination of a long night of questionable strike calls. As Loney walks back to the dugout, Cuzzi walks with him, and when the exchange gets heated, Cuzzi throws out Loney. That's right, he threw a guy out when the game was ALREADY OVER. Not to mention he did the worst thing an umpire can do, which is engage a player or coach in argument, baiting them into getting thrown out.

August 8, 2007: Cuzzi once again showed his tendency to engage managers, when he jawed with Ozzie Guillen till Guillen came out of the dugout and was thrown out. Guillen was quoted as saying: "From 1985 to now, I don't see any umpire disrespect players and managers the way that guy does".

Game 4, 2005 NLCS: Jim Edmonds was up in the 8th inning with the tying run on base. With the count 3-1, Edmonds took a pitch and started toward first, only for Cuzzi to call it a strike. When Edmonds turned around to ask where the pitch was, Cuzzi tossed him. The Cardinals would lose the game and the series.

2003: In his 2nd to last game of the season, Roy Halladay was pitching for a Cy Young and a team record 22nd win. When Halladay threw a pitch inside to Rocco Baldelli, Phil decided it was intentional, and threw Halladay out of the game, a shocking move based on the circumstances. No one, including Baldelli, thought Halladay was trying to hit him.

Game 2, 2009 ALDS: Ah, Phil's masterpiece, his 9th symphony, his Hamlet. In a tied game in the 9th inning, Joe Mauer hit a ball down the left field line, which hit off Melky Cabrera's glove in fair territory and went into the stands. Phil was the left field umpire, and despite being no more than 20 ft. away, looking right at the play, he called the ball foul. The call was so easy, it has been cited since as a great example of the need for instant replay in baseball. Perhaps baseball should just fire Phil Cuzzi.

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Hamels started toward the dugout after what he thought was a strike. Lincecum didn't get the call & buzzed ump Dana DeMuth w. a fastball that slammed off the backstop & then froze Hamels w. another 3rd strike. 4/28/10 Timmy the ump killer.
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Thanks to sfg13 for this find and post:

The same umpire who calls the BS balk on Lincecum in 2008, and the same umpire who ruled Furcal safe in the top of the 9th in a crucial Giants Dodgers game, in which Ron Wotus got ejected, did this tonight.

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Just keep this (and the Phil Cuzzi play against the Mets) in mind if we lose out to Philly by 1 or 2 games for the WC

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Add Bob Davidson to the list for general laziness, obstanance and arrogance.

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I saw two things from Buster Posey that were totally out of character yesterday.

For one, he somehow managed to go 0-for-6 in a 12-11 game.

For another, he argued with an umpire. And not just any umpire. Posey, a rookie, appeared to be giving a good chewing-out to crew chief John Hirschbeck after he got rung up on a strikeout in his last at-bat.

You know Hirschbeck’s strike zone is bad when a respectful rookie such as Posey breaks decorum to pipe up in a very noticeable way.

I’m guessing Posey wasn’t protesting his strike call as much as campaigning for the strikes that several Giants pitchers threw that Hirschbeck flat-out missed earlier in the game. I can think of a few that Brian Wilson threw down the heart of the plate that didn’t get called. And Hirschbeck seemed totally unwilling to give Barry Zito a strike on any overhand curveball, no matter where he threw it.

The Reds had a few down the middle that Hirschbeck just plain missed, too.

Every umpire can have a bad day, and I don’t see Hirschbeck often enough to know if his zone is always so inconsistent. But from my view, it was an embarrassment yesterday, and gave the Giants one more thing to be P.O’d about in the aftermath of the 12-inning loss.

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