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Jim Joyce is now and forever the biggest donkey ump...



I disagree. He is devastated by his missed call. Can't hate him for owning up to his blunder. Other MLB umps would not have.

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I agree with Byco. It is a shame that it was a blown call that cost the kid a perfect game, but I commend Joyce for owning up to his blown call almost immediately. Joyce is actually one of the better umpires in the league and I tip my hat to him for coming out and saying that he missed the call. I also have to tip my hat to Armando Galarraga. After the call, he didn't even say a word to Joyce. He got the next hitter for a 1* hitter.
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After being at 1st yesterday, Jim Joyce is behind the plate today in Detroit. Jim Leeland had Armando Galarraga present the Tigers' lineup card. Joyce shook hands with Galarraga and patted him on the shoulder. Here is the article.

Umpire Jim Joyce wiped away tears as he took the field on Thursday, a day after his blown call cost Detroit Tigers pitcher Armando Galarraga a perfect game.

Major League Baseball is still deciding whether to review the blown call.

Joyce and Galarraga met at home plate Thursday afternoon as the pitcher presented the umpire with the Tigers' lineup card. Joyce shook hands with Galarraga and patted him on the shoulder.

There were some cheers when Joyce appeared at Comerica Park. There was a smattering of boos when he was introduced.

Joyce has admitted missing a call at first base Wednesday night on what would've been the final out, ruling Cleveland's Jason Donald safe. The veteran ump personally apologized to Galarraga after the game and hugged him.

Joyce showed up to work Thursday looking as if he hadn't slept. He appreciated the outpouring of support from umpires, family and friends but lamented strangers lashing out at his wife and children.

"I wish my family was out of this," Joyce said, holding back tears as he spoke nearly two hours before the Indians-Tigers series finale. "I wish they would direct it all to me. It's a big problem. My wife is a rock. My kids are very strong. They don't deserve this."

Tigers general manager Dave Dombrowski said the team will not ask MLB to overturn the call. Selig would likely consult with his top advisers before making such a ruling. St. Louis Cardinals manager Tony La Russa says the call should be overturned.

Tigers manager Jim Leyland said MLB gave Joyce the option to not work Thursday's game, but Joyce chose to stick with his job behind the plate.

The fans gave Galarraga a loud ovation in a brief ceremony before Thursday afternoon's game started, during which General Motors presented him with a 2010 Corvette convertible.

The instantly infamous play, which had social networking sites all abuzz, will add to the argument that baseball needs to expand its use of replays. As of now, they can only be used for questionable home runs.

It's rare for an umpire to acknowledge a mistake in one of the few sports that relies heavily on the human eye, but Joyce did to reporters and later to Galarraga.

"It was the biggest call of my career, and I kicked the [stuff] out of it," Joyce said, looking and sounding distraught as he paced in the umpires' locker room. "I just cost that kid a perfect game."

Leyland was livid during the game when he charged out of the dugout to argue the call and got in another heated discussion with Joyce after the final out.

Later, though, Leyland tried to give Joyce a break.

"The players are human, the umpires are human, the managers are human," Leyland said.

Galarraga appreciated the apology.

"You don't see an umpire after the game come out and say, 'Hey, let me tell you I'm sorry,' " Galarraga said. "He felt really bad. He didn't even shower."

Galarraga, who was barely known outside of Detroit a day ago, and Joyce, whose career had flourished in relative anonymity, quickly became trending topics on Twitter. At least one anti-Joyce Facebook page was created shortly after the game ended and firejimjoyce.com was launched.

"I worked with Don Denkinger, and I know what he went through, but I've never had a moment like this," Joyce said.

Denkinger didn't have to deal with the wrath of fans on Twitter or Facebook. Denkinger helped tilt the 1985 World Series by blowing a call as a first base umpire, and that followed him throughout his career.

Joyce has been calling balls and strikes and deciding if runners are out or safe as a full-time major league umpire since 1989. He has been respected enough to be on the field for two World Series, 11 other playoff series and a pair of All-Star games.

A split-second decision he made will probably haunt him for the rest of his career.

Joyce emphatically signaled safe when Donald clearly didn't beat a throw to first base for what would've been the last out, setting off a chorus of groans and boos that echoed in Comerica Park.

Chuck Klonke, the official scorer Wednesday night with nearly three decades of experience, said he would not change the disputed play to an error from a hit to give Galarraga a no-hitter.

"I looked at the replay right after it happened, and Miguel Cabrera made a good throw and Galarraga didn't miss the bag so you couldn't do anything but call it a hit," Klonke said Thursday morning. "I watched the replay from the center-field camera, which some people thought showed Galarraga might've bobbled the ball, and I didn't see it that way at all. I have 24 hours to change a call, but I wouldn't consider it.

"End of story."

Not quite.

The story has transcended sports, becoming a topic on NBC's "Today" show Thursday morning and among parents dropping off their kids at the bus stop.

Galarraga was vying for the third perfect game in the majors this year, including Roy Halladay's gem last Saturday night. He seemed to do his job for the 27th out along with first baseman Cabrera on a play teams work on often in spring training.

Donald hit a grounder in the hole between first and second, Cabrera fielded it and threw to first, where Galarraga caught the ball at least a step ahead of Donald, replays showed.

"I feel sad," Galarraga said.

Cabrera said he didn't want to talk about it and Donald answered questions from reporters after a long soak in the tub.

"I didn't know if I beat the throw or not," Donald said. "But given the circumstances, I thought for sure I'd be called out."

The Tigers huddled around one of the two big-screen televisions in their clubhouse, standing stoically and silently as the play was shown over and over.

"I know I played in a perfect game," Detroit shortstop Ramon Santiago said. "In my mind, on June 2, Armando Galarraga threw a no-hitter. I'm going to get a ball signed by him."

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Gary Cederstrom for ringing up Johnny Damon with a full count, two outs, bases loaded in the 9th inning of a one-run game on a pitch that was easily six inches off the plate.

Bite me, Cederstrom.

Ed Hickox for having a strike zone the size of the hole in Wild Bill's head the very next day.

Fieldin Culbreth can't see his pecker in the shower, either.

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Cederstrom must have thought that Tom Glavine was on the hill for the Bravos. That pitch wasn't even close.

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Can we add World Cup refs??


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 emoticon Kerwin Danley,Laz Diaz,Doug Eddings are on the top of my list. I was at the Big Blue Toilet Bowl (LA) the night Danley took that ball in the throat.I had to move the bus so the paramedics could drive onto the field.They drove right across the grass instead on the warning track.That's when I knew it was a serious injury. Too bad it wasn't career-ending! emoticon
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Wally Bachman hates this ump.

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Wally Backman hates this ump.




Fooking awesome meltdown, thanks.
I re-posted it elsewhere

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the umpire that gets my respect.
Marty interviews the former umpire who worked in the National League from 1962 through 1992. Noted for his authoritative command of baseball rules, he earned the tongue in cheek nickname "God" from players. Harvey will be inducted into the Hall of Fame on July 25, 2010.
doug harvey

and i'd like to note that during the games they have the doug harvey clip of you make the call..all the umpires (yes all of them on the field) they turn to the jumbo tron at AT&T park and watch the clip.

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Hamels started toward the dugout after what he thought was a strike. Lincecum didn't get the call & buzzed ump Dana DeMuth w. a fastball that slammed off the backstop & then froze Hamels w. another 3rd strike. 4/28/10 Timmy the ump killer.
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