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Hey All,

So Tyler Beede is the Giants' #1 pick. 6'4"/215 at age 21, with a 92-94 MPH fastball that has movement when thrown down in the zone and tops out in the 96-97 range, He's also got a 12/6 curveball, and a plus+ change. He went backwards, stat-wise, in his 3rd season at Vanderbilt...was actually the 3rd best pitcher, stat-wise, on their staff this season...will start against Stanford in a super regional game, so if Stanford's game is on the tube, local fans might get to see our top pick in action.

The knock on him is that he's got some control issues. Following Crick through the system will give him a chance to work with a developmental staff that's VERY familiar with his issues.

I'm pretty happy, for no other reason than the Giants didn't pick yet another middle IF....;+).......

On to Round 2!

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Hey All,

And now...in round 2, the Giants take a CATCHER? Okaaaaayyyyyy.

Aramis Garcia is a R/R 6'3"/210 catcher with a lot of room to fill in, physically. He can add bulk and strength. Like Posey, intelligent, and a comer in terms of improving behind the plate in a short period of time. Could become a power bat, although the Giants will have to adjust his swing a bit, as he tends to hit hard line drives, but without the elevation and backspin you see with HR hitters.

As a catcher, he will need fine-tuning defensively, as his technique is still lacking, but he has a reputation of doing a great job of managing his pitching staff. We'll see if he ends up being a catcher with the Giants, or moving out to a corner IF or OF spot.

I was a little surprised the Giants didn't go for another pitcher, or a power OF bat, but in Barr I trust....Gary Brown be durned....;+).......

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Hey All,

Okay...so I missed a little time...so we'll cover a few rounds here...

Round 3...Dylan Davis, a 20 year old R/R OF...except he can also throw a fastball in the mid-90's. At 6'/215, he's got power in both his arm and bat, but no speed. Projects as a RF, with the back-up option of becoming a relief pitcher.

Interesting picks in Rounds 2 & 3...both are primarily offensive players, but players who the Giants are going to have to tune up, in terms of their approach at the plate.
I guess if you're going to draft a "toolsy" guy, having the primary tool be on the offensive power side, rather than the Giants' traditional speed and defense approach, isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Round 4...Logan Webb...listed at 6'2"/180, a R/R high school pitcher. Selected as a regional MVP, his stat line for his senior year was impressive...8 starts, 2 CG, 57.2 total IP, including 6 relief appearances, an ERA of .49, 73 K and 30 BB...my only question is how he managed to lose 3 games, while winning 4. He's unquestionably going to be the whitest guy on every team he plays for.

Round 5...Samuel Coonrod...beyond having the last name most likely to produce dick-related taunts, Coonrod may be the biggest pitching project the Giants pick in this draft. The 21 year old R/R fireballer has fallen back from the 98 MPH fastball he had in his freshman college season, and is currently working in the 92-94 MPH range, with secondary stuff that has also fallen off. It'll be interesting to see if they even try to use him as a SP, or if they track him as a reliever from day 1. At 6'2"/190, he probably can't be counted on to gain velocity due to the addition of a great deal of bulk. If it comes, along with improved control, it'll be because of the Giants' developmental efforts with him.

Round 6...Skyler Ewing...A kid named Ewing from Texas? How long before fans are calling him JR? Another project. A 1B who could become a catcher? A guy who hasn't hit for average until his .298 in 2014, but has the RH power to drive balls out of AT&T? At 6'1"/220, he's got the frame to catch, but he may be 25 or 26 before he's ready to catch at the MLB level. Did I say he's a project? C'mon Mike Napoli!

Dinner time now...more later...C'MON GUYS. how about a comment or three?

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Hey All,

A day behind...busy Saturday....

Round 7...CF Seth Harrison, a 21 year old college OF from U of LA Lafayette, who are actually playing Ole Miss on ESPN while I'm typing this. In 2014, he produced a .317/.375/.551 slash line in his Senior season, with 9 HR and 63 RBI in 243 AB. IL-L is obviously a strong offensive team, as Harrison was hitting in the 7 hole in tonight's Super Regional game. Harrison also had 10 OF assists from CF in 65 games. He was 1 for 2 with a single before I tuned in and knocked in a run with a GO in the first AB I saw. In the second AB I saw, he drove a line drive to RF for a single. He stands up in a very open stance before getting into position to hit. LOTS of moving parts at the plate, but a quick bat.

Round 8...CF Austin Slater...a bit of a head scratcher, as the 21 year old doesn't profile as a sure thing CF, due to a lack of range, or a corner OF, due to a lack of SLG ability. A college slash line of .350/.397/.509, with 17 doubles, 6 triples, and 2 HR says he probably isn't going to project as much more than a 4th OF. Given the selection of Harrison in Round 7, why go for this guy in Round 8?

Round 9...RHRP Stetson Woods, a 19 year old tall drink of water at 6'8"/200, from Liberty High. A non-closer reliever, he tossed 24.2 innings in his senior year, producing 41 K and 6 BB, with a .57 ERA. Appears to have a fastball in the 93 MPH range. He is very thin, so as he fills out, the Giants could see him gain some serious velocity. Interesting pick.

Round 10...LHSP Matt Gage, a 21 year old power arm from Sienna College in NY. Averaged almost 7 IP per college start as a junior, which is what stood out for me. Produced 90 K and 39 BB in 110 IP, giving up a BAA of .273, but only 2 HR. A big boy, at 6'4"/240, any additional power he's going to get is going to have to come via improved mechanics.

Round 11...RHP Greg Brody, who redshirted in 2013 to convert himself to a pitcher, having started his college career as a 3B. Ended 2014 with 23 IP in 22 appearances, producing 8 saves, 26 K, and only 5 BB. Allowed a .271 BAA, but only 3 XBH, 2 doubles and 1 HR. At 6'2"/185, the Giants will probably try to bulk him up, but at 22 years old, you've got to figure he's already tried to build himself up.

Okay...want to go watch the Giants game...more on Sunday.

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Hey LoneStar -

When reviewing some of the Giants picks, that Stetson Woods guy caught my eye at 6'8" 200lb.
Don't remember where I was looking but pretty sure it said he was all set to start at Fresno St this fall.
I remember thinking the same thing about Crick when he was drafted straight outta high school, that he was all set to attend a U somewhere and I doubted he would actually sign.
Glad the Giants were so persuasive, guess we'll have to see what happens.

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Hey NLTCrow,

I think that, with rare exceptions, a high school player's decision to go to college is based on 3 factors.

#1 Does the player realistically see a future at the MLB level? While most of these players are single and open to committing a few years on a bus to see if they can make it, some are great students, with interests...and a future...in other areas. Given the cost of a major university education, a full ride scholarship is worth the bonus money a middle round draftee would get.

#2 What was the player's draft position? This is kind of the team's take on whether the player has a future in the majors. Getting drafted after the 10th round isn't necessarily going to motivate a player to walk away from a scholarship.

#3 What is the potential for the player to improve their draft position by going to school? There are some schools where, success in their program translates to good draft positioning. Also, some players benefit from the added physical size/bulk you can pick up between ages 18-21. Still others may have decided to change positions in their senior year of HS, and want time to prove they have what it takes in their new role.

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When reviewing some of the Giants picks, that Stetson Woods guy caught my eye at 6'8" 200lb.
Don't remember where I was looking but pretty sure it said he was all set to start at Fresno St this fall.



Stetson Woods looks like he's about 16 years old. He's got no upper body to speak of, and I can't believe he's got much of a base at that height and weight...and at present, he's probably viewed by the Giants as a reliever. If he's a good student, he's probably someone who would benefit from spending a couple years as a Bulldog.

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Hey All,

Okay, this will probably wrap up my review of the Giants draft picks, as it starts getting tough to find enough info to be able to triangulate.

Round 12...Jameson Henning...21 years old TODAY, I'm liking this kid, as we share the same birthday, only I'm like, 21 squared.

Henning is a 6'4"/190 college shortstop from Western Illinois. A .727 OPS as a college junior, using aluminum bats, doesn't speak well for his chances. I'm not really sure where he fits into any plan for the Giants.

Round 13...Luis Lacen, a R/R 17 year old OF from the Carlos Beltran Baseball Academy in Puerto Rico. Not a lot of information on him, but in the video I saw, he proved that he could make a strong throw to 3B from shallow RF, and that he has been working out with wooden bats. I read one review of him that described him as "toolsy, with a long ways to go." I don't think THAT reviewer could find anything on the kid, either...;+).......

Round 14...Kevin Rivera...an 18 year old switch-hitting 2B from the Carlos Beltran Baseball Academy. 5'11"/170. Again, not a lot of information out there on him.

Round 15...Benton Moss...a R/R college pitcher from UNC, who throws a fastball in the low 90's but with little movement. Also throws a curve, a change, and a slider, but none of his pitches is especially devastating. At 6'2"/175, I don't really know how much upside he has.

Okay! I'm calling the ball at Round 15, as these guys just aren't that interesting to research at this point. Watch...the star of this draft will have been taken in Round 23...

Anyone else who wants to run with the ball through the remaining rounds is welcome to do so!

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Hey Lone,

Aramis Garcia, what I can add is this young man like Buster has great moral and personal values.
If he can make it he is the type of player to add to the clubhouse in those intangible ways and be a
credit to the organization.

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Hey Lone,

Logan Webb, Rocklin HS, very good athlete, talked to a friend who lives in Loomis very near Rocklin.
He said he is a go getter, was Rocklin High's football quarterback. Here's his football recruiting tape.

http://seoj02a.ncsasports.org/baseball-recruiting/ca/rocklin/rocklin-high-school/logan--webb

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Hey 58,

Thanks for coming over...I agree on Aramis Garcia...given the rep he has as far as both intelligence and work ethic, combined with his leadership genome...if the young man can develop as a hitter, the Giants should be able to find a place for him.

I'm concerned about the fact our two most recent star catching prospects, Tommy Joseph (who was dealt with Nate Schierholtz for Hunter Pence) and Andrew Susac, have had concussion issues.

Given the nature of the position, I don't know that there's anything to be done about it...maybe a test to determine propensity for concussions...but it seems like it's going to be an issue for catching prospects.

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