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why is Zito getting all this love? if not the worst, just about the worst FA signing of all-time
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I think someone may have forgotten a certain NLCS Game 5.

A very bad contract indeed. However, three years ago, even a curmudgeon as yourself, would have given Zito $126M if that guaranteed a WS in SF. I assume all of teh mules would agree.
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one game wasnt worth 126 million

seven years ago I told him face to face " when I was a kid Marichal won 70 games ( I was close enough) in three years, you wont win 70 games in seven years"

looks like I was right

Woody didnt get this much love and he was a thousand per cent better
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That 1 game was worth every bit of $126M. Not one cent of that $126M came out of my pocket.

We made a deal with Zito and all is settled.
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I loved Marichal but he never helped get us a WS title. That said he was a fantastic pitcher.

The money spent on Zito, while exorbitant, did, in the long run, end up getting us a WS title.

And it is money under the bridge now.

$126mil FTW!

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from wiki - The Greatest Game Ever Pitched
"One regular-season game in Marichal's career deserves mention, involving him and Milwaukee Braves' Hall of Famer Warren Spahn in a night contest played July 2, 1963, before almost 16,000 at Candlestick Park in San Francisco. The two great pitchers matched scoreless innings until Giants outfielder Willie Mays homered off Spahn to win the game 1–0 in the 16th inning.[21][22] Both Spahn and Marichal tossed complete games,[22] something that almost certainly will never happen again in the big leagues. Marichal allowed eight hits in the 16 innings, striking out 10, and saddling eventual career home run king Hank Aaron with an 0-for-6 collar.[22] Spahn permitted nine hits in 15 and one-third innings, walking just one (Mays intentionally, in the 14th, after Harvey Kuenn's leadoff double) and striking out two.[22] The game, almost the innings-duration of two contests, lasted only 4 hours, 10 minutes."

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also this - Johnny Roseboro incident
Marichal is also remembered for a notorious incident that occurred on August 22, 1965, in a game played against the Giants' arch-rival, the Los Angeles Dodgers.[23] Twice in the first three innings, Marichal had thrown near the head of Dodger leadoff batter Maury Wills. As Marichal was batting against Sandy Koufax in the last of the third inning, Dodger catcher Johnny Roseboro's return throws to the mound flew too close to his head and one grazed his ear. Words were exchanged, and Roseboro, throwing off his catcher's helmet and mask, rose to continue the argument. Marichal responded by repeatedly hitting Roseboro's unprotected head with his bat.[24] The benches cleared into a 14-minute brawl, while Giants captain Willie Mays escorted the bleeding Roseboro (who would require 14 stitches) back to the clubhouse.
Marichal was ejected, suspended for nine days and fined $1,750 (equivalent to $12,749 as of 2013)[25]. He was also barred from attending the Giants' final series with the Dodgers, in Los Angeles on September 6–7. Photos of the incident (Official Baseball Guide 1966, Sporting News, p. 19) also show Tito Fuentes (who was in the on-deck circle) wielding a bat threateningly, but Fuentes did not actually hit Roseboro and was not ejected. Roseboro sat out the next couple of games and returned to the lineup on the 25th.[26] Roseboro filed a lawsuit against Marichal, but eventually settled out of court, supposedly for $7,000 ($50,996 as of 2013),[25]. Marichal and Roseboro would eventually go on to become close friends, reconciling any personal animosity and even autographing photographs of the brawl.
Many people protested the apparently light punishment meted out, since it would cost Marichal only one or two starts. The Giants were in a tight pennant race with the Dodgers (as well as the Pirates, Reds, and Braves) and the race was decided with only two games to play. The Giants, who ended up winning the August 22 game and were down only 1⁄2 game afterward, eventually lost the pennant by 2 games. Ironically, the Giants went on a 14-game win streak that started during Marichal's absence and by then it was a two-team race as the Pirates, Reds, and Braves fell further behind. But then the Dodgers won 15 of their final 16 games (after Marichal had returned) to win the pennant. Marichal won in his first game back, 2–1 vs. the Astros on September 9, (the same day Koufax pitched his perfect game vs. the Cubs,) but lost his last three decisions as the Giants slumped in the season's final week.

Zito never assaulted anyone..that we know of...

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