T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with us https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/t15794 Runboard| T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with us en-us Tue, 19 Mar 2024 06:09:20 +0000 Tue, 19 Mar 2024 06:09:20 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457322,from=rss#post457322https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457322,from=rss#post457322That being said, I'll have to consider you as more than an asshat. Great, that's just what I needed, another person on this board that I take note of...nondisclosed_email@example.com (Tranq)Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:56:15 +0000 T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457321,from=rss#post457321https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457321,from=rss#post457321Bhakkon, I think people have to care to have that come to mind. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Tranq)Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:46:09 +0000 Re: T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457280,from=rss#post457280https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457280,from=rss#post457280quote:Nine Buck wrote: quote:FATALFART wrote: hunter is a good player, i just dont think hes worth 100 mil considering his age and decline in the field. i expect his bat to be just as good for the next couple of years I believe it was 90 mill/5 years, not 100, but your point is still well taken. Definitely pricey. Let me ask you this though-- who would you rather have for (an average of) 18 million a year-- Zito for 7 years -- or Torii Hunter for 5 years? Yes, I know that's hindsight logic, but it still has relevance when considering Hunters worth. i rather have hunter, at least he'll be productive offensively. i have serious doubts about zito, hes been declining every year. i hope he can turn it around nondisclosed_email@example.com (FATALFART)Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:16:21 +0000 Re: T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457271,from=rss#post457271https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457271,from=rss#post457271quote:FATALFART wrote: hunter is a good player, i just dont think hes worth 100 mil considering his age and decline in the field. i expect his bat to be just as good for the next couple of years I believe it was 90 mill/5 years, not 100, but your point is still well taken. Definitely pricey. Let me ask you this though-- who would you rather have for (an average of) 18 million a year-- Zito for 7 years -- or Torii Hunter for 5 years? Yes, I know that's hindsight logic, but it still has relevance when considering Hunters worth. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nine Buck)Sun, 09 Mar 2008 17:25:42 +0000 T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457260,from=rss#post457260https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457260,from=rss#post457260hunter is a good player, i just dont think hes worth 100 mil considering his age and decline in the field. i expect his bat to be just as good for the next couple of yearsnondisclosed_email@example.com (FATALFART)Sun, 09 Mar 2008 16:37:27 +0000 Re: T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457255,from=rss#post457255https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457255,from=rss#post457255quote: Otherwise, I would have rather they saved the dough and not put yet another player in front of Nate/Davis at all, rather than just get another decent player. And that's what I think Rowand is-- an above average and decent player, nothing more. That rationale encapsulates my objection to the Rowand signing. Too much money, for too many years, to too average of a player. Who, moreover, didn’t fill a position of greatest need (that being one of the corner inf positions) and who blocks Nate. My only hope is that spring training convinces Magowan who futile it is to think the Giants will be anywhere close to contending this year or next year. Accordingly, Magowan comes to the bleated conclusion that it is necessary to: 1) Blow up the roster. If takers can’t be found for Roberts and company, they need to be DFA. 2) Give the greatest number of promising young players meaningful experience this year. 3) More $ needs to be sunk in intl. scouting. 4) Spend whatever it takes during the draft. 5) Do not overpay for another average player(s) during FA.   nondisclosed_email@example.com (Avenge02)Sun, 09 Mar 2008 16:21:20 +0000 Re: T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457252,from=rss#post457252https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457252,from=rss#post457252quote:Nine Buck wrote: quote:Nimbus Rodus wrote: quote:Nine Buck wrote: ...Winn is injured-- with another foul ball knee that according to Winn himself is "like the injury I had bothering me most of last season" (paraphrased) Earlier in the radio gamecast Winn was quoted as saying that the foul ball was off his shin, not his knee. For what it's worth... I heard that too. Miller stated that WInn said he thought it was off his knee but was surprised to see the bruise on his ankle the next day. (maybe Miller meant to say shin, or maybe it was his ankle, not that there is a whole lot of difference, but an ankle injury is usually more troubling long term.) Must have been some shooting pain, to have been felt more in his knee initially. Hopefully, that's good news in regards to being an ankle/shin rather than a knee? . . Let's hope it's good news. There won't be buckets of it this season. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nimbus Rodus)Sun, 09 Mar 2008 16:02:48 +0000 Re: T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457244,from=rss#post457244https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457244,from=rss#post457244quote:Nimbus Rodus wrote: quote:Nine Buck wrote: ...Winn is injured-- with another foul ball knee that according to Winn himself is "like the injury I had bothering me most of last season" (paraphrased) Earlier in the radio gamecast Winn was quoted as saying that the foul ball was off his shin, not his knee. For what it's worth... I heard that too. Miller stated that WInn said he thought it was off his knee but was surprised to see the bruise on his ankle the next day. (maybe Miller meant to say shin, or maybe it was his ankle, not that there is a whole lot of difference, but an ankle injury is usually more troubling long term.) Must have been some shooting pain, to have been felt more in his knee initially. Hopefully, that's good news in regards to being an ankle/shin rather than a knee? . . nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nine Buck)Sun, 09 Mar 2008 14:37:28 +0000 Re: T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457237,from=rss#post457237https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457237,from=rss#post457237quote:Nine Buck wrote: ...Winn is injured-- with another foul ball knee that according to Winn himself is "like the injury I had bothering me most of last season" (paraphrased) Earlier in the radio gamecast Winn was quoted as saying that the foul ball was off his shin, not his knee. For what it's worth... nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nimbus Rodus)Sun, 09 Mar 2008 14:08:38 +0000 Re: T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457185,from=rss#post457185https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457185,from=rss#post457185quote:Bhaakon wrote: Let me clarify. Hunter has been more consistent than Rowand, but Hunter's still been terribly inconsistent. In both cases (Hunter and Rowand) the teams are paying out salaries that the respective players have only really earned in two of the past five seasons. At least in Rowand's case he'd have been a bargain at his current salary in those two seasons, while Hunter would have been merely appropriately compensated. I see your point and the money issue is what I ultimately agreed was a fair factor to consider, if one cares about such things. Fact is, as long as the salary cap could handle it, I really didn't care how much PROFIT it would have cost the ownership group, as long as they got us a real bat. (It's not my money and so obviously that's easy for me to say.) Otherwise, I would have rather they saved the dough and not put yet another player in front of Nate/Davis at all, rather than just get another decent player. And that's what I think Rowand is-- an above average and decent player, nothing more. I guess it's just personal opinion when it comes down to it, but I see Hunter as being more than decent and more than above average. I'd still like to see Winn and Roberts go away, but as usual, Sabean sat on his hands and now Winn is injured-- with another foul ball knee that according to Winn himself is "like the injury I had bothering me most of last season" (paraphrased) nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nine Buck)Sun, 09 Mar 2008 00:06:59 +0000 T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457184,from=rss#post457184https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457184,from=rss#post45718430-35 sounds high for a fantasy estimate. Most of those guys should be hedging their bets on the chance that he wouldn't hold the job all season. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Bhaakon)Sun, 09 Mar 2008 00:02:25 +0000 T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457183,from=rss#post457183https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457183,from=rss#post457183Your contribution did not go unnoticed, Phil......I've heard non-partisan reports that some are expecting BW to finish between 30-35 saves...no idea how they come to those numbers, as estimates, but whatevernondisclosed_email@example.com (Tranq)Sat, 08 Mar 2008 23:54:50 +0000 T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457182,from=rss#post457182https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457182,from=rss#post457182Let me clarify. Hunter has been more consistent than Rowand, but Hunter's still been terribly inconsistent. In both cases (Hunter and Rowand) the teams are paying out salaries that the respective players have only really earned in two of the past five seasons. At least in Rowand's case he'd have been a bargain at his current salary in those two seasons, while Hunter would have been merely appropriately compensated. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Bhaakon)Sat, 08 Mar 2008 23:49:09 +0000 Re: T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457180,from=rss#post457180https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457180,from=rss#post457180You had me at "Hunter certainly has consistency on his side..." after that, not so much, though option "D" would have been my second choice. F. Sabean nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nine Buck)Sat, 08 Mar 2008 23:36:08 +0000 T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457179,from=rss#post457179https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457179,from=rss#post457179Hunter certainly has consistency on his side, but Rowand's two best seasons were better than Hunter's. Also, Aaron is two years younger and much cheaper. Of course, IMO, the correct answer was either C) Andruw Jones, or D) none of the above. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Bhaakon)Sat, 08 Mar 2008 23:30:40 +0000 Re: T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457178,from=rss#post457178https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457178,from=rss#post457178It wasn't so much that anyone prefered Rowand over Hunter. That comparison wasn't really ever mentioned because not many of us foresaw Rowand being possibly signed. It was more along the lines that many people didn't think it would be worth the dough to sign Hunter, and me and T definitely did think it was worth it. Really, who I was railing against was Sabean for not getting Hunter and then signing Rowand for all those years INSTEAD. I realize that it's only spring training, but I still say that Hunter is a stud compared to Rowand, and my guess is that Hunter's 2008/2009/2010 numbers will prove out that he would have been a far better signing than Rowand . I'd love to be wrong for obvious reasons, but I doubt I will be unless Torii sustains a serious injury or some other unforeseeable disaster befalls him.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nine Buck)Sat, 08 Mar 2008 23:24:21 +0000 T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457177,from=rss#post457177https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457177,from=rss#post457177OTOH, many sane people would prefer Rowand's contract over Hunter's. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Bhaakon)Sat, 08 Mar 2008 23:20:52 +0000 T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457176,from=rss#post457176https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457176,from=rss#post457176I don't think anyone sane would prefer Rowand over Hunter even before spring trainingnondisclosed_email@example.com (rootbeersoup)Sat, 08 Mar 2008 23:08:43 +0000 Re: T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457126,from=rss#post457126https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457126,from=rss#post457126quote:timmy4cyyoung wrote: In was JASON4cy... And I can't be blamed for him turning into a bitch! Sure you can. We just did! nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nine Buck)Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:39:04 +0000 Re: T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457117,from=rss#post457117https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457117,from=rss#post457117quote:Egan2581 wrote: quote:timmy4cyyoung wrote: In was JASON4cy... And I can't be blamed for him turning into a bitch! It's alright Timmy4... I was just giving ya shit haha   nondisclosed_email@example.com (timmy4cyyoung)Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:30:14 +0000 Re: T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457112,from=rss#post457112https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457112,from=rss#post457112quote:timmy4cyyoung wrote: In was JASON4cy... And I can't be blamed for him turning into a bitch! It's alright Timmy4... I was just giving ya shit haha nondisclosed_email@example.com (Egan2581)Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:25:07 +0000 Re: T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457106,from=rss#post457106https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457106,from=rss#post457106In was JASON4cy... And I can't be blamed for him turning into a bitch!nondisclosed_email@example.com (timmy4cyyoung)Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:19:27 +0000 Re: T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457088,from=rss#post457088https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457088,from=rss#post457088quote:tehehd wrote: this is spring training. evaluate at year's end. It's pretty easy to evaluate a (64-98, I looked at your rankings) team in just two words: They suck!nondisclosed_email@example.com (Egan2581)Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:55:36 +0000 Re: T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457086,from=rss#post457086https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457086,from=rss#post457086 this is spring training. evaluate at year's end.nondisclosed_email@example.com (tehehd)Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:53:20 +0000 Re: T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457085,from=rss#post457085https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457085,from=rss#post457085quote:Egan2581 wrote: Timmy4CY- You need to change your name to Schmidt4Cy Young or something, because every name you assume that guy either ends up sucking or gets hurt.... now Lincecum has a pulled groin Schmidt4cy was his original name, and so you are right, he kills off players left and right with his handles. But... he's going to opening day at the Latrine- and he will re-invigorate the Curse of the Willy Statue, and the Bums will never recover. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nine Buck)Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:51:55 +0000 https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457076,from=rss#post457076https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457076,from=rss#post457076How about BrianWilson4Rolaidsnondisclosed_email@example.com (philramirez)Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:43:01 +0000 Re: T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457069,from=rss#post457069https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457069,from=rss#post457069Timmy4CY- You need to change your name to Schmidt4Cy Young or something, because every name you assume that guy either ends up sucking or gets hurt.... now Lincecum has a pulled groin nondisclosed_email@example.com (Egan2581)Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:31:41 +0000 Re: T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457063,from=rss#post457063https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457063,from=rss#post457063I hate Sabean!nondisclosed_email@example.com (timmy4cyyoung)Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:25:34 +0000 Re: T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457062,from=rss#post457062https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457062,from=rss#post457062Hunter? What about Vlad a few years back? PMG and Co proclaimed "we won't go out and break the bank for another hitter... so what do they do a few years later? Go out and give a 85 MPH throwing pitcher who is on the decline 126 mil. Genius move. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Egan2581)Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:25:00 +0000 T4Cy and I BOTH told you guys, and almost no one agreed with ushttps://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457060,from=rss#post457060https://boardsfgiantsfans.runboard.com/p457060,from=rss#post457060We said it then, I'll say it now again. TORII HUNTER. F U SABEAN--- You should have bought the star, not some midget lil' white boy whose claim to fame is running into a facking wall and hanging out with Steve Perry and AJ. Hunter- 14 at bats 5 doubles, 2 triples and 2 home runs. And a better glove too. FAck Sabean, Fack AJ, Fack Steve Perry and fack Joe Crede too. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Nine Buck)Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:21:27 +0000