Bhaakon
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Crede deal already in the making??
Crede is scrappy and Feliz isn't? Based on what?
At the risk of implying that you're a racist, haven't you ever noticed that almost every "scrappy" or "hard nosed" player is a white guy who's average at best, while many minority players with similar production get called underachievers and hacks? What makes Crede scrappy and Feliz a hack? That Crede takes a couple more pitches?
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Re: Crede deal already in the making??
Oh here we go with the race card.....
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Re: Crede deal already in the making??
quote: Bhaakon wrote:
Crede is scrappy and Feliz isn't? Based on what?
At the risk of implying that you're a racist, haven't you ever noticed that almost every "scrappy" or "hard nosed" player is a white guy who's average at best, while many minority players with similar production get called underachievers and hacks? What makes Crede scrappy and Feliz a hack? That Crede takes a couple more pitches?
That's so true, Bhaakon. I don't think so many people would be in love with David Eckstein or Darrin Erstad if they looked like Hanley Ramirez.
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Re: Crede deal already in the making??
I think the poster meant to write that Crede is "crappy" just like Feliz.
There is absolutely no reason to trade anyone of value for Crede -- he had one good season and now has a bad back -- I would much rather just pay less money to sign MacPherson, who may surprise and will not cost any talent to obtain.
Sabean please don't make any more bonehead moves -- do not trade for Crede!! Even if he is "scrappy" I could give a flying flip when he only gets on base 3 out of 10 times.
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Re: Crede deal already in the making??
I'm comfortable with Fransden being the opening day 3b, and Durham put on notice that if he struggles again, Velez will take over 2b.
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Crede deal already in the making??
"At the risk of implying that you're a racist, haven't you ever noticed that almost every "scrappy" or "hard nosed" player is a white guy who's average at best, while many minority players with similar production get called underachievers and hacks? What makes Crede scrappy and Feliz a hack? That Crede takes a couple more pitches?"
100% agree...
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Bhaakon
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Crede deal already in the making??
And I think that subjective things like "looks like he's trying" is one of the areas where unconscious racism rears it's ugly head. I also think that there are precious few major leaguers who aren't working their a$$e$ off, and Feliz was not on that short list (note: that doesn't mean Feliz was either good or worth keeping).
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Re: Crede deal already in the making??
quote: losgigantes wrote:
a guy who sucks but looks like he barely cares(hillenbrand).
This reminds me... If Crede craps out during Spring, is it possible Sabean will give Hillenbrand another run? He "plays" the two questionmark areas the Giants have at 1B and 3B.
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