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And when it's all said and done, we aren't looking for long term solutions at that position, as we have a multi-million dollar baby in the system that is already ear-tagged and vaccinated. 1 year at a time with whatever is the best available at a reasonable price.

That's Angel's bag. If we go and get a 3bagger that actually cost's us a notable % of salary and some years, and options, [sign in to see URL] would just be <fill in the blank>.

I know he's some years off yet, but I bet we see him in the Bigs at least in limited call up's by the time he's 20. That's 2 years? 2 years and some months?

Fack it, as if were contending. Put Frandsen over there, until Ray disappears. Then put Richy over there when Franny is the sole owner of 2nd.

I hardly see the reason for the big boner on getting a [sign in to see URL] wont make a diference anytime soon.
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There's no reason at all to be throwing millions of $$$ or trading decent prospects for a one- or two-year rental at third (THIS year). They absolutely shouldn't be doing BOTH!

At the worst, Aurilia could play third. They could also play Frandsen there (since 3B was his spot in college, were his defense was considered strong). Heck, they could even call up McClain or Leone.

If the Giants can't find somebody young with upside, they should just pass and keep what they have until they can trade for something better in July or Dec. (Personally, I'd rather the Giants took a shot with McPherson - but only if the contract were reasonable.)



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McPherson seems to have dropped off the map...

Boras must be holding out for big $$$

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While I agree the Giants SHOULD put Richie Ballgame at 3B, or Frandsen should Ray be blocking [sign in to see URL] appears very unlikely the Giants will do this.

If the Giants are going to go out & buy a 3B, I'd rather they not trade for it. I'll take Crede for D. Roberts and S. Kline (or just D. Roberts if they want)...but that's [sign in to see URL] young pitchers. If that deal can't happen, then I'm happy if the Giants get Feliz for 1 year/$6M. This is better than trading a pitcher for a guy making $[sign in to see URL] (after bonuses). [sign in to see URL] would be best for the Giants to fill 3B in [sign in to see URL] if that will not [sign in to see URL] only want to trade for a 3B with Roberts/Kline.
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I know i'm preaching to the choir here, but my $[sign in to see URL] is that feliz should be avoided at all costs. give the job to franny. no platooning with richie. in fact, i only want richie coming off the bench to pinch hit.

ort fulltime at 1b
franny fulltime at 3b

If ray ray gets traded, franny to 2b, richie to 3b. hold the fort until villalona. we are probably going to suck a$$ next year. why suck with old bastards?? play teh kids; at least you have HOPE.

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How do we hold the fort with Richie? You can't think Angel will be our 3B next year...

I'm fine with Richie holding 3B this year or Frandsen. However, if the Giants aren't going to do [sign in to see URL] are your thoughts on Feliz? Would you rather trade a pitcher for a comparable 3B who costs just as much?

I see it like this:
Feliz for $6M
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Crede for $[sign in to see URL] AND Correia

If those are the [sign in to see URL] me Feliz.
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quote:

Jack Flash1 wrote:

How do we hold the fort with Richie? You can't think Angel will be our 3B next year...

I'm fine with Richie holding 3B this year or Frandsen. However, if the Giants aren't going to do [sign in to see URL] are your thoughts on Feliz? Would you rather trade a pitcher for a comparable 3B who costs just as much?

I see it like this:
Feliz for $6M
OR
Crede for $[sign in to see URL] AND Correia

If those are the [sign in to see URL] me Feliz.



If Franny could turn into a good 3B it leaves 2B open competition by the masses of middle infielders on the farm. In a perfect world I'd like to see Franny become a 3B and see Velez try and win that 2B job. That also creates more opportunity in the OF, as the leadoff position won't have to filled from LF or RF. That's the direction I'd like to the Giants work toward. And at least make me think they have an vision.

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quote:

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How do we hold the fort with Richie? You can't think Angel will be our 3B next year...

I'm fine with Richie holding 3B this year or Frandsen. However, if the Giants aren't going to do [sign in to see URL] are your thoughts on Feliz? Would you rather trade a pitcher for a comparable 3B who costs just as much?

I see it like this:
Feliz for $6M
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Crede for $[sign in to see URL] AND Correia

If those are the [sign in to see URL] me Feliz.



there was a period (".") between Richie & "hold the fort". I didn't mean richie would be our 3b for 3 more years until angel is ready!! (if we're lucky.. isn't angel 17??)

I meant richie this year, get a cheap FA next year, hell maybe even velez... until angel is ready. hold the fort. we're going to suck for quite a while, so play the kids and stop signing old players that offer no hope.

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You all assume that Villalona will be a third baseman. All reports are that Angel is a BIG boy! There is a good chance at age 17, that he will continue to grow in which case he might turn out to be the next Andres Gallaraga which might mean that he would eventually be a first baseman not a third baseman.

I think Villalona is at least three years away and has too many unknowns to factor into decisions as to who will play third base in 2008.

Just sayin'

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22TT you're right. I guess I'm just sick of old dudes playin 3B. I want young blood!!

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