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Dan Haren Traded to The Diambondbacks - SNAP!


Article I read said that with the injury list being what Beane expects it to be in 2008 (because of so many players' injuries and the operation(s) during the off-season) that he doesn't think the team can contend in 2008 - so he's stocking the larder for 2009 and beyond.

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So what exactly is Billy Beane's strategy? What is he rebuilding? I get that he wants to sell high on his young players, but didn't he do that not too long ago with Hudson and Mulder?

If his strategy is to trade the young talent before they become too expensive, doesn't he just leave himself a 2-3 year window before the next cycle starts? I'm not sure I really understand it. Everybody praises him for making tough trades and having the balls to get rid of fan favorites, but in the end, if he doesn't win, he just dumps his young stars for the next batch of prospects and the cycle continues. I don't get it.



Considering Beane got Haren when he dumped Mulder, I think he makes out okay.

The reason Beane gets praise is because he usually makes these tough trades without the team skipping beat. They still had pretty good rotation after breaking up the big three and still made the playoffs.

That's where we see the difference with Sabean. Sabes wasn't even willing dump Schimdt at the deadline in '06 when the Giants were obviously terrible.

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I do think Beane spends too little time between 'rebuilding'. The assumption that trades are always good trades is a risky one. If he misfires on a trade, then the plan is shot. And now, he's helped commit the A's to at least two more years of poor performance before they can hope to get better.

That said, this isn't too bad a trade. But there's no real centerpiece.

• Gonzalez is a solid player, but he's got severe contact issues. He's a probable major leaguer, but not a superstar.

• Brett Anderson's the other 'centerpiece.' All in all, his season wasn't bad, and while his peripherals are excellent right now, but his stuff has been a bit too hittable. He's not a Haren kind of guy, IMO. Again, good, but not incredible.

• Greg Smith is a solid minor league guy so far, and adds depth, but is he a major leaguer? He's a back of the rotation starter, middle reliever type.

• Aaron Cunningham might be the steal of this draft. The outfielder has shown good contact skills, and an unusual ability to keep his OBP high when his average drops (He swings at what he can hit, which I like). His power isn't game changing, but his speed is the fulcrum. He was a solid basestealer at the lower levels, but was less efficient at the higher levels. If he can steal at a good rate and get more than 20 a year, he'll be a guy the D-Backs will regret losing.

• Chris Carter is another good guy, though I wouldn't pick him as a superstar. His power is just short of ideal, but the east bay kid might improve in his home are (hey, I wonder if him being a Fremont kid had anything to do with this). But then, the A's do have a lot of possible first base guys.

• Dana Eveland is a bit of a throw in. He's always had great minor league numbers, but can't get healthy, nor seem to do anything in the majors, getting worse and worse.

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We all must assume that Blanton is going to be the next to go. I wonder what Beane wants in return for Blanton? He isn't a #1 or #2 but I'd consider him a solid #3. Good innings eater.

It will be interesting to see where Blanton goes.

Just sayin'

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