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quote:

"And Dodger management knew they were juicing, see for yourself."

What makes you so sure?



Maybe it's that internal Dodgers memo about how they needed to move LoDuca because he was off the juice.
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The guy or girl said "And Dodger management knew they were juicing, see for yourself."

I don't see what he or she is talking about.

There is no evidence as "proof"

I know I hate the Dodgers too but this person is just talking out of their ass with a comment like that.

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I like how on FSN on thier little troll scrawl Clemens is like 7th appearing on the list. Barry is 1st(still), and rightfully so I guess, but Clemens should be the prominent #2, not the hack's, has beens and never was that appear between Barry and Roger.

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BarrysBoy, here is the relevant entry from the Mitchell report that lays the ground work for Nine Buck's "baseless" claim that Dodgers management knew Lo Duca was on the juice:

[Can be found on page 209 of the physical report, page 257 of the .PDF file, at the bottom of the page]

"According to the notes of an internal discussion among Los Angeles Dodgers officials in October 2003 that were referred to above, it was reportedly said of Lo Duca during the meetings:
           Steroids aren't being used
           anymore on him. Big part of
           this. Might have some value to
           trade... Florida might have
           interest. ... Got off the
           steroids... Took away a lot of
           hard line drives. ... Can get
           comparable value back would
           consider trading.... If you do
           trade him, will get back on the
           stuff and try to show you he can
           have a good year. That's his
           makeup. Comes to play. Last
           year of contract, playing for 05."
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Every6thDay,

That is not "proof", that just makes him a suspect not "guilty". You guys are just as bad as the Dodger fans that say Barry is guilty. I'm on the side of you guys here, but at the same time you guys are acting like hypocrites.

You can't point fingers at LaDoca when our boy Barry has been trashed by so many for the same type of evidence.

Just like our boy Barry, LaDoca is innocent until proven guilty.

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These are memos that would probably be good enough for an impeachment let alone a steroid case. What kind of proof is going to satisfy you? A needle with DNA on it? Again, these are internal memos, not comic books or literary fiction to entertain. If it walks like a duck, and it quacks, it's most likely a !@#$ duck.

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I don't think Barry Bonds is innocent, I just don't care that he's guilty. If he ever tested positive for something, he should be punished accordingly. A lot of guys in baseball have done what Barry's done and a whole lot worse, whether it be beating their wives or killing men on their family ranch or using PEDs.

That said, I understand what you're saying about Los Duhyerz suspicions of him being on the juice isn't proof, but, certainly, you can't deny that Lo Duca received something from McNamee, and the Federal authorities have decided that it was illegal substances of a steroid nature.

Whether or not Lo Duca used what he received -- even after going through great pains to receive what he paid for -- is up to you to decide.

Most Giants fans don't like Lo Duca, so, this is really just a way of focusing the hate into something tangible, BarrysBoy. I don't think any of us would call for his head or banning him from baseball or the record books, we are just enjoying the schadenfreude as we watch all the Duhyerz fans try to come to terms with the fact that their Beloved Paulie ain't so perfect.

Remember, to even be implicated in something like this, regardless of guilt or innocence, is enough to ruin a person's credibility, legacy and life forever in this day and age.

 
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"If it walks like a duck, and it quacks, it's most likely a ****ing duck."

That is not good enough for me.

Barry and Loduca are friends and they are both innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

Not on this message board!

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"Whether or not Lo Duca used what he received -- even after going through great pains to receive what he paid for -- is up to you to decide."

NO! How can I or YOU decide if we never saw him take it?

Innocent until proven guilty.

Just like our boy Barry.






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That's a very simple way to see the world. I hope you're not making major, public safety decisions on a daily basis.

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