">
Runboard.com
You're welcome.
Please
Read Rules Click for Rules


ALL Open Forum Baseball Mules/HF's ATT Park FAQ&Admin

v

runboard.com       Sign up (learn about it) | Sign in (lost password?)


Page:  1  2  3  4  5  6  7 

 
zito4cyyoung Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

HALL OF FAME POSTER
Global user

Registered: 02-2007
Posts: 2223
Reply | Quote
Re: The 2008 draft - Who Fits?


quote:

22TheThrill wrote:

quote:

TheMalcontent wrote:

I have no problem if we draft a pitcher with our first pick as long as he is a power hitter and plays 1st or 3rd base.

=)



I'd be happy with a couple more Cain's or Timmey's. Sure the organization needs some position players but I just want the Giants to draft the best players available. Please no more Tony Torcato's or Todd Linden's.

Just sayin'





What about Jason Ellisons


 emoticon

---
Keep Franchise!!
1/7/2008, 3:48 pm Link to this post   
 
22TheThrill Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

HALL OF FAME POSTER
Global user

Registered: 10-2006
Posts: 2774
Reply | Quote
Re: The 2008 draft - Who Fits?


quote:

zito4cyyoung wrote:

quote:

22TheThrill wrote:

quote:

TheMalcontent wrote:

I have no problem if we draft a pitcher with our first pick as long as he is a power hitter and plays 1st or 3rd base.

=)



I'd be happy with a couple more Cain's or Timmey's. Sure the organization needs some position players but I just want the Giants to draft the best players available. Please no more Tony Torcato's or Todd Linden's.

Just sayin'





What about Jason Ellisons


 emoticon



Or the Jason Ellisons.

Just draft some impact [sign in to see URL].

Just sayin'

---
------------
Baseball is like church. Many attend but few understand.
Leo Durocher



1/7/2008, 4:09 pm Link to this post   
 
zabadoey Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

ROOKIE PHENOM
Global user

Registered: 10-2006
Posts: 35
Reply | Quote
Re: The 2008 draft - Who Fits?


I'm praying that Pedro Alvarez goes "Porcello" and slips to us simply because his demands are too high. But I agree, the Rays don't exactly have a history of letting top talent slip based on salary demands (see: Matt White, although that didn't exactly work out well for them).

Also, although he's young and it's way too early to tell, I've heard him compared to Pujols, and that he would have been the top bat in LAST YEARS draft. Brute, any truth to that? Any idea what his Major League ETA might be as well?

Last edited by zabadoey, 1/7/2008, 4:21 pm
1/7/2008, 4:21 pm Link to this post   
 
philramirez Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

ALL-STAR POSTER
Global user

Registered: 07-2007
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 498
Reply | Quote
The 2008 draft - Who Fits?


If signed early Alvarez will be in the majors this September. He's that good.

---

1/7/2008, 6:35 pm Link to this post   
 
BruteSentiment Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

HALL OF FAME POSTER
Global user

Registered: 10-2006
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 2050
Reply | Quote
Re: The 2008 draft - Who Fits?


quote:

zabadoey wrote:
Also, although he's young and it's way too early to tell, I've heard him compared to Pujols, and that he would have been the top bat in LAST YEARS draft. Brute, any truth to that? Any idea what his Major League ETA might be as well?



I haven't heard the Pujols comparison, but as for whether he'd have been the best bat in last year's draft, it's a matter of opinion, but I wouldn't argue. He's got about the same ceiling as last year's top bat, Matt Wieters, but is a much better defensive player. Granted, that isn't 'bat', but he's absolutely a better player prospect.

---
SFDugout.com - It's back! Top 50 Giants Prospects currently running!
1/7/2008, 7:22 pm Link to this post   
 
zabadoey Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

ROOKIE PHENOM
Global user

Registered: 10-2006
Posts: 35
Reply | Quote
Re: The 2008 draft - Who Fits?


quote:

BruteSentiment wrote:

I haven't heard the Pujols comparison, but as for whether he'd have been the best bat in last year's draft, it's a matter of opinion, but I wouldn't argue. He's got about the same ceiling as last year's top bat, Matt Wieters, but is a much better defensive player. Granted, that isn't 'bat', but he's absolutely a better player prospect.



The Pujols comparison was from Bryan Smith of Baseball Prospectus. After the '07 draft he wrote of Alvarez:

"If Alvarez was included in this season’s draft class, David Price be damned, the Devil Rays would have chosen Alvarez. The Red Sox considered signing Alvarez out of high school but the third baseman wanted to go to Vanderbilt, and he has blossomed under Tim Corbin. Alvarez is built like Albert Pujols and profiles to have similarly elite power. Scott Boras throws around the term a lot, but I don’t, Alvarez is a generational amateur talent."

Albeit, it's just one man's opinion, that's quite an endorsement.
1/8/2008, 12:18 pm Link to this post   
 
Freshbreaker Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

HALL OF FAME POSTER
Global user

Registered: 10-2006
Posts: 3706
Reply | Quote
Re: The 2008 draft - Who Fits?


quote:

22TheThrill wrote:

quote:

TheMalcontent wrote:

I have no problem if we draft a pitcher with our first pick as long as he is a power hitter and plays 1st or 3rd base.

=)



I'd be happy with a couple more Cain's or Timmey's. Sure the organization needs some position players but I just want the Giants to draft the best players available. Please no more Tony Torcato's or Todd Linden's.

Just sayin'



An example of my thinking is that if Alderson has a meteoric rise through the system and gets a September call up, (not what I think will happen) then I would be more than happy to trade him or a current starter for a position player.

Because pitchers generally move faster and even more so in the Giants system, it might more efficient, if they got the right pitcher,to draft the best pitcher and filp him for a bat in a year or two instead of waiting around for a hitter to develop. Don't hold your breath.

---
Travis Ishikawa is NOT a competent first baseman.
1/8/2008, 12:53 pm Link to this post   
 
22TheThrill Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

HALL OF FAME POSTER
Global user

Registered: 10-2006
Posts: 2774
Reply | Quote
Re: The 2008 draft - Who Fits?


quote:

Freshbreaker wrote:

quote:

22TheThrill wrote:

quote:

TheMalcontent wrote:

I have no problem if we draft a pitcher with our first pick as long as he is a power hitter and plays 1st or 3rd base.

=)



I'd be happy with a couple more Cain's or Timmey's. Sure the organization needs some position players but I just want the Giants to draft the best players available. Please no more Tony Torcato's or Todd Linden's.

Just sayin'



An example of my thinking is that if Alderson has a meteoric rise through the system and gets a September call up, (not what I think will happen) then I would be more than happy to trade him or a current starter for a position player.

Because pitchers generally move faster and even more so in the Giants system, it might more efficient, if they got the right pitcher,to draft the best pitcher and filp him for a bat in a year or two instead of waiting around for a hitter to develop. Don't hold your breath.



I think that this has been Sabean's plan all along however, he's finding out that teams are more than likely wanting to hold onto their top young hitters, even when they are in desperate need of pitching, e.g., the Reds or the M's. So in order for this strategy to work, Sabean needs to get equal or better value for his young pitchers, something so far he has been unable to get. This also means that Sabean has to maximize the most out of all the position players that he drafts. The organization needs a ton more Noonan's.

I do think that either Bumgardner or Alderson will make it to the big club after this year which should make Lowry, Sanchez, etc even more expendable. Again, however, can Sabean get anybody of value for some young arms?

Just sayin'

Last edited by 22TheThrill, 1/8/2008, 1:59 pm


---
------------
Baseball is like church. Many attend but few understand.
Leo Durocher



1/8/2008, 1:52 pm Link to this post   
 
209Giant Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

HALL OF FAME POSTER
Global user

Registered: 04-2007
Location: Above the Fray
Posts: 3709
Reply | Quote
The 2008 draft - Who Fits?


I like Alonso from the U of Miami, the dude can flat out smash the ball, not in great conditioning, but I don't think it really matters.

---
I'm a real American hero- Like Deer Hunter DeNiro
1/8/2008, 3:06 pm Link to this post   
 
22TheThrill Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

HALL OF FAME POSTER
Global user

Registered: 10-2006
Posts: 2774
Reply | Quote
The 2008 draft - Who Fits?


I know that organizations should not draft out of need but rather by talent available, and not to beat a dead horse, but the Giants really need a corner infielder, a corner outfielder with pop, and a catching prospect. I'd be happy if the Giants just use their #5 pick for a decent bat.

Just sayin'

---
------------
Baseball is like church. Many attend but few understand.
Leo Durocher



1/8/2008, 3:59 pm Link to this post   
 


QUICK REPLY

Page:  1  2  3  4  5  6  7 





You are not logged in (login)

>BACK TO THE TOP<

LINKS
Retrosheet - Baseball Reference - The Baseball Cube
OFFICIAL SF Giants Board - Active Roster - 40 Man Roster
SF 2010 Schedule - SF Gate on ATT Park - KNBR Podcasts
MLB Rumors - Baseball Think Factory - Hardball Times
Fantasy Baseball Hub - Fan Graphs - Cot's Contracts
Minor Giants Daily Recap - Seat Data - SFDugout.com
AZ Giants Spring/ Fall Blog - Your Giants Korea - El Lefty Malo
Chris Haft - Huff Daddy - Inside Giants Clubhouse
McCovey Chronicles - Dodger Blues - Extra Baggs
LINKS OF FAME