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No homo.

Not that there is anything wrong with that, but Dr. Fost rocks:

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On the media and steroids:

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Scout: As you know, a lot of media stories have emphasized the physical harm associated with steroids. What’s your view?

 

Fost: There are two problems with the media accounts.

First, playing the sport causes far more permanent disabilities than those associated with steroid use. In football, far more players have died or become seriously disabled from playing the sport than for reasons related to steroids. I would guess more people have died playing baseball, versus taking steroids - namely, one [the Indians’ Ray Chapman in 1920]. I’m not aware of any major league baseball player whose death can be clearly attributed to steroids.

Good ethics start with good facts, and press accounts have been wildly exaggerated. The majority of reporters have been repeating the same claims about risks without checking the sources. This litany of claims - that steroids cause cancer, heart attacks, strokes, and other serious medical problems in baseball players - isn't supported by any reliable medical evidence.

When steroid users like Lyle Alzado [of the NFL] or Ken Caminiti have died, the media has simply assumed that the steroids played some significant part, but there isn’t a shred of evidence that either one was a 'steroid-related death', as Alzado’s cancer was described in the front page of the New York Times. The young man in Texas, [Taylor] Hooton, was a very sad case, but reportedly had other risk factors for his suicide, such as depression and was reportedly using Lexapro, an anti-depressant medication called an SSRI, which have been shown to be associated with suicidality.

One of the problems with the prohibition policy is that everything is driven underground, so we can’t do the kind of well designed studies that could produce reliable information. I don’t belittle the non-life threatening risk associated with steroids, in everything from male pattern baldness, infertility (usually reversible), voice changes, mood changes, and acne. All those things are real. I do object to the claims about the life-threatening effects from steroid usage in the ways professional athletes use them.

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On the government and steroids:

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Scout: The President, speaking in the State of the Union address, commented on the situation, as you know. He said that the chemicals ‘send the wrong message - that there are shortcuts to accomplishment, that performance is more important than character.’

 
Fost: I’m not sure the President is in any place to talk about sending the wrong message. He found 15 seconds to talk about steroids in the State of the Union address, but not one second to talk about tobacco and alcohol, which are proven to kill hundreds of thousands of Americans, year-in and year-out . . . The administration has no serious initiatives on any of that.

This is called hypocrisy. You have 400,000 deaths a year due to tobacco - 400,000 a year! You have tens of thousands of alcohol-related deaths, a substance heavily promoted by Major League Baseball. And you have virtually no deaths linked to steroids - maybe one, maybe two. The President and Congress and the press have virtually nothing to say about tobacco and alcohol, but lots to say about steroids. You can’t take it seriously in terms of relevance to kids’ health.

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On MLB and steroids:

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Scout: I guess one of the reasons I don’t really respect football is the fact that it’s based on crippling violence. Baseball has always had far more respect for its athletes’ health and well-being.

 

Fost: I don’t see Major League Baseball showing much concern about substances or behaviors that cause much more harm than steroids, such as alcohol and chewing tobacco. If the purported goal is to protect the athletes from harming themselves, why are the penalties for tobacco and alcohol use not as harsh as those for steroids? In the case of alcohol, they not only don’t discourage its use to the same degree as steroids, they promote it to the fans.

The hypocrisy of a steroids ban is even more obvious, in sports like football and hockey, where there is an even higher risk of permanent disability.

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Scout: Why not make the situation better through a ban?

 

Fost: Because you’re not going to make it any better. It’s hard to reduce to zero [steroid] deaths - it’s somewhere close to zero already - but it’s relatively easy to reduce thousands of the 400,000 tobacco-related deaths. There’s only so much air time, and I’d recommend politicians talk about the things that really do affect kids’ values and kids’ health.

 

As you know, I’m in favor of a complete prohibition on steroid use by kids. There are adverse health effects there that don’t apply to adults, and kids can’t make informed choices. However, if baseball’s worried about sending a message to kids, I’m 100 times more concerned about a place called Miller Park, where they sell beer in industrial quantities. The League takes little notice of it, nor do they have penalties for players who abuse alcohol comparable to the penalties for steroid use.


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On steroids and baseball:

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Scout: Do you believe steroids undermine the continuity of baseball history?

 

Fost: There are all sorts of reasons why Bonds’ home runs aren’t really comparable to [Roger] Maris’ home runs, and why Maris’ home runs weren’t comparable to Babe Ruth. So many things have changed, including the height of the pitching pound, the ball park dimensions, the number of games, nutrition, videotape, computers - and they’re accepted in the course of things.

 

I’m told the average number of home runs rose 50% when the Indians moved from old Municipal Stadium to Jacobs Fields [in 1994]. Why wasn’t there a hue and a cry to add asterisks to those records? Because you’d have to put asterisks on everything - because nothing is truly comparable. Steroids undoubtedly have affected the number of home runs, but so have many other factors. The records would not be comparable even if there had been no steroids.

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It is nice to see someone take a rational approach to this subject for a change, but I doubt the media will take any notice.

Read the whole thing, and a "well said" to Dr. Fost.

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Yay for logic!
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That was a kickass interview, a huge batting practice display.
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If Padres or Dodgers or Yankees fans knew how to read, I'd be interested to hear their preschoolish reply.

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Dr. Fost? You're kidding me.
I wait for the rebuttal argument from Dr. Mofisto.


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It's entertaining to read that and contrast it to the verbal garbge that is disseminated by thoughtless "news people" on television and in print.

Well done.

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