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Jeff Bagwell....


I really want to [sign in to see URL] that Bagwell has officially retired from the game, how come NO ONE has mentioned 'roids with him. The guy used to be HUGE and now he is very slight framed.

If you look at the highlights from his career, he came in very small, got huge during his big seasons, then he started getting hurt all the time, and now he is retiring because of those injuries and is small again.

So why is it that no one is accusing him of roids? It seems to me (especially living in Orange County) that teh Lord is the only one accused of using roids. And the reasoning behind it is the same in the cases of Sosa, Bagwell, hell even Clemens has gotten alot bigger...

It just frustrated me that teh Lord is getting crucified (again)...

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That's easy: Bagwell isn't as big a story. If he was going for the home run record or if he was someone the media didn't like, then you would hear a lot more about him. There are some guys (Clemens, Schilling, Johnson, Bagwell) that seem like obvious users to me that you never hear about.

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Jeff Bagwell....


Just my observation...........
I noticed that huge shoulders and huge
thighs on players are linked to roid use.
I dont think these players are gym freaks.

Is Manny, Ortiz candidates? Ray Ray
How did he get so productive in the 5th hole?




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Re: Jeff Bagwell....


Bagwell came into the the league when he was 22 years old. he aged, got bigger in old age and then his shoulder gave out. A lot of players tend to slim down after injuries or as they get toward the end of their careers- concentrating on rehabing and flexibility rather than weight training. Barry Bonds underwent extensive fexiblity and agility training before his 2001 when he set his then career HR numbers. We all know what happened after that. but that's not the the point.

EVERY player gets bigger as they age. It's nature working. Look at Andruw Jones or Todd Helton or Tony Gwynn or even Frank Thomas. Everybody is skinnier, naturally, in their early twenties than they are later in life.

Quit reading so much into all this. Assuming all players are on 'roids is going to ruin the game. There are people saying Howard isn't innoncent until he tests negative, or that David Wright must be juicing. It's ridiculous.

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Jeff Bagwell....


As much as I hate to indict without evidence, and Bagwell was one of my favorite players... Bags is perhaps the greatest example of skinny doubles hitter turns into a brick wall.... only to shrink down to a shell of a man....

Yes, the shoulder is shot, but I honestly worry that he did more damage to himself than that. The change in body over the last couple of years looks like something more serious than coming of roids and a shoulder injury....

And that press conference.... With the blazers big old shoulder pads looked like an attempt to blend in with all the life size photos of Bagwell that surrounded him....

So, thanks for the memories Mr Bagwell, and wishes for good health

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