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Concerning Matheny ...

If Matheny *didn't* retire last year, the club would definitely have owed him the money. I don't think that he *had* to retire - he could have just stayed on the 60-day DL all year and the Giants would have paid him. Do you think he said "You're a nice team - forget that last $6M you owe me - you keep it" ?? I certainly don't. I think that Matheny and the Giants had an agreement that he would get paid. Why? Because the Giants desperately needed that roster space because the 40-man roster was completely full, and they had to add two guys (and you can't put a guy on the 60-day DL in January). So my *guess* is that the Giants said "Please retire, we really need that roster spot - we'll pay you anyways."

But nobody knows.

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Re: Payroll Update 12/02/07


Since we are assuming the Giants wont contend in 2008, then i would like to see the management fill up the hole with some cheap 1 year rents and save as much money as they can for FA 2008 and 2009.
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okay with rowand signing what is the new payroll look like?
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okay with rowand signing what is the new payroll look like?



You're kidding, right?

Just in case you aren't : take the salary table(s) where Rowand isn't listed, and add $12M each year for the next 5 years.

Bingo.

(Hint: for 2008, using Merkin's numbers, that's approximately 72.75+12 = $84.75M.)

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quote:

MarcoPolo666 wrote:

quote:

Giants2WorldSeries wrote:

okay with rowand signing what is the new payroll look like?



You're kidding, right?

Just in case you aren't : take the salary table(s) where Rowand isn't listed, and add $12M each year for the next 5 years.

Bingo.

(Hint: for 2008, using Merkin's numbers, that's 72.75+12 = $84.75M.)




Wouldn't it be 76.75 - .4= 76.35 + 12= 88.35?

Edit: Just wanted to add that I think the Giants are really going to regret signing Rowand.

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darn - forgot "approximately". I've fixed it now, thx. I don't know how I misread the column as 72.75, instead of 76.75.

I also believe that Bonds' deferred payments are largely undervalued for 08, since Bonds is receiving $5M (and interest since 2003) + $5.8 (no interest, 2007) + $1M personal services contract.

It also looks like the amount for 2009 is over-valued, since in 09 Bonds should receive $5M (and interest since 2004) + $3.5 (+ interest since 2007) + $1M personal services contract.

And the deferred money from the 2002-06 contract *really* shouldn't count, since it's already in the bank. But who knows how the Giants will spin it.

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Can anybody post a spreadsheet as to where the Giants are at today, that would be cool.

Just sayin'

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2008 #5 Pick in draft

Player $
LF D. Roberts 6.5
CF A. Rowand 12
RF Winn 8
26.5

3B R. Aurilia 4.5 bonus $50k @ 300, 350, 400, 450 & 500 Pas
SS O. Vizquel 5 2009 option vests at 140 GS ($5.2M) $.3M buyout
2B Durham 7.5 $25k @ 450 Pas $200k bonus if traded
1B D. Ortmeir 0.4
C Molina 6.25 bonus $50k @ 80, $75k @ 95, $100k @ 105, $125k @ 115 $150k @ 125 GS
23.65

SP Zito 14.5
SP Lowry 2.25
SP Cain 0.7
SP Lincecum 0.4
SP J. Sanchez 0.4
18.25

Closer B Wilson 0.4
RP S. Kline 1.75
RP T. Walker 0.75
RP B. Hennessey 0.4
RP R. Messenger 0.4
RP V. Chulk 0.4
RP K. Correia 0.4
4.50

OF Bench F. Lewis 0.4
OF Bench R. Davis 0.4
C Bench E. Alfonzo 0.4
IF Bench L. Niekro 0.4
IF Bench K. Frandsen 0.4
2.0
Dead 2008 $13.4M

Total: 88.30M

There are $775k in bonuses than can be earned and another $200k to Durham if he is traded.

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Payroll Update 12/02/07


I'm pretty sure there's dead money that isn't being counted. Matheny's $2M buyout, Alou's deferred salary from 2006. And what about Bonds' $1M "personal services contract" from the 2002 contract?

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Re: Payroll Update 12/02/07


Wouldn't Matheny's contract be paid for by insurance so there is no reason to buy him out?

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